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Bill: RADNAT AGENDA 2560
Details
Submitted by[?]: Meritocratic Alliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2560
Description[?]:
Celebrating 100 years of the Solentian Radical Nationalist Party. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning child labour.
Old value:: Child labour is forbidden.
Current: Child labour is allowed and unregulated; adult labour laws do not apply.
Proposed: Child labour is allowed, but with additional regulations to those of adult labourers.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Education for children under adult age.
Old value:: Education is compulsory, but home schooling is permitted.
Current: Education is entirely voluntary.
Proposed: Education is compulsory and has to happen at school.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: Defence industries are privately owned and not subsidised.
Current: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Proposed: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on the nation's power grid.
Old value:: Each region owns and maintains its own power grid.
Current: Multiple private companies each own and maintain sections of the national power grid.
Proposed: The national grid is fully owned by the state.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Current: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on nuclear power.
Old value:: The decision is left up to local governments.
Current: The government does not take any position on nuclear power.
Proposed: The government encourages nuclear power (subsidies, tax relief etc).
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The distribution, purchasing and possession of material depicting pornographic acts.
Old value:: Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for adults.
Current: All forms of pornography are illegal.
Proposed: All forms of pornography are illegal.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the post office
Old value:: Only private post agencies exist, and the services they provide are regulated.
Current: There is a nationalised post office agency. Private post offices are allowed to exist but the services provided by them are regulated.
Proposed: There is a nationalised post office agency in the nation. Private ones are banned.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The legality of slavery.
Old value:: Slavery and the slave trade are illegal.
Current: Slavery and the slave trade are illegal.
Proposed: Slavery and the slave trade is allowed.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The funding of sports clubs.
Old value:: Local governments decide the funding policy of sports clubs.
Current: The government funds some sports clubs side-by-side with private ones.
Proposed: The government funds some sports clubs side-by-side with private ones.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change Regulation of the quality of drinking water.
Old value:: Local government is responsible for drinking water quality regulation.
Current: The government sets a single standard to ensure all tap water is drinkable.
Proposed: The government sets a range of standards dependant on water usage. (grey water regulation, etc.)
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women can only serve in non-battle positions.
Current: Women have no place in the military.
Proposed: Women serve alongside men.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 19:18:01, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | For someone who called accused the ANF of supporting a 'communist welfare state' this bill reeks of communism. But even more it reeks of oppression of Solentian citizens. The PP should be ashamed for supporting this bill. |
Date | 19:30:58, April 12, 2008 CET | From | National Zeus Party | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | Ingram Party leadership would like to publicly condemn anyone who supports this bill, the SRNP and its ridiculous members should be ashamed of themselves for even proposing this bill, this blatant attempt to enslave any Solentian citizens will not be forgotten by our party. Signed Mary Abramov Ingram Party Chairperson |
Date | 19:33:27, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | The SRNP and it's 90 members elected by the people, continue to act on behalf of what their constituents want. We are under no illusion that this bill may pass. Such is politics and we bear no ill will to any who do not vote in favor. Thank you. |
Date | 19:46:33, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | In this bill the SRNP proposes that: Slavery and the slave trade is allowed. My question is, how would this work in application? Would anyone be available to be bought and sold? Who may or may not own slaves? What are the living standards, if any, forced on slave owners and traders in concern to their 'products?' |
Date | 21:24:15, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | This will be purely for prisoners as will be amended in forthcoming legislation. |
Date | 22:07:01, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | Article 12 Proposal[?] to change The legality of slavery. Old value:: Slavery and the slave trade are illegal. Current: Slavery and the slave trade are illegal. Proposed: Slavery and the slave trade is allowed. |
Date | 22:13:35, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | And your point is? |
Date | 22:27:54, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | Article 12 has absolutely nothing to do with prisoners. So please answer the questions I have asked. |
Date | 22:40:07, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | If this Bill is passed the ANF will be forced to appeal not only to our Supreme President, but to the citizens of the world. Slavery is in no way an acceptable form of life or punishment, regardless of race, religion, class or political beliefs. |
Date | 23:00:03, April 12, 2008 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | You can appeal to whomever you like. You can vote it down, if you like. This is a nation of laws, not outcry. |
Date | 06:16:38, April 13, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | Not only do the SRNP and the lunatics in the PP support the enslavement of our people, but so do the IP and CPS? What is the world coming too. I'd LOVE TO hear these parties reasons on why they support such a barbaric act!!!!! |
Date | 06:30:32, April 13, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | This is a passage from the description of the Independent Party: "This party takes off of the ideas of John Locke. He believed that people were born free and equal and the government has to protect these rights. People also have the right to overthrow there government if the government does not protect there rights." This statement is from the People Party: "More human rights, a good balance between politics and the people. " In a similar bill http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=185907 the IP and PP were opposed to extra labor for prisoners and the enslavement of prisoners of war. We can enslave our own people but not those who have intentionally tried to harm us? |
Date | 06:45:06, April 13, 2008 CET | From | Federal Republican Party | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | The F.R.P. finds it unbelievable that any member of this legislature would support a bill that would enslave our own citizens. Have you all lost your minds? We are a proud and free Republic! For all the Heritage Coalition says they stand for, this is just out of the ballpark in context! Shame on each and every one of you for desiring to have slaves working at your posh homes. Those who have voted yes on this, I look forward to the backlash from the citizens of Solentia to whom you enslave. What are your plans for our citizen-slaves? Truly, the F.R.P. is speechless. Signed, Party Spokesman, Ron Seigler |
Date | 19:05:18, April 13, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | A few things I would like to point out. One, apparently the PP's way of dealing with unemployment is to have the unemployed auctioned off as slaves. Bravo. Two, another case of IP's hypocrisy, intentional or not, is this bill http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=181903 which included the same change to child labor, but they voted against. |
Date | 20:19:47, April 13, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | The FRP would make the SHC appear as though we are the enemies here when it is indeed the FRP who through several bills over the recent years has supported unchecked government power to spy on and intimidate Solentia's own citizens. Do not sling mud when it can be slung both ways, Mr. Seigler. James Devreau, Inner Party Leader |
Date | 20:29:45, April 13, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | Again it appears the CPS is confused, of our eight active parties, only the FRP is a convinced small government. |
Date | 20:31:02, April 13, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | I'm sorry, I misspoke, the PP is also convinced small government. |
Date | 21:10:09, April 13, 2008 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | I would ask that all parties reconsider their vote on the affirmative regarding one specific issue in this legislation which would grant the legality of the slave trade. It is a violation of basic human rights to be indentured to another citizen and would defy the democratic roots this nation holds dearly. We cannot be truly proud of a government regime that supports the enactment of slavery and patriotism towards this bill should be frowned upon. It would be the best move to reconsider a vote in support of this legislation to recognize the indecency of slavery. Let us advance forward and make progress, not revert back into a primitive state. I ask that the Independent Party, People Party, and Conservative Party rethink their move to legalize slavery. FIP Speaker Arkady Ourumov |
Date | 22:22:00, April 13, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | In just over an hour it will be legal to own another person in Solentia. . . |
Date | 22:45:41, April 13, 2008 CET | From | National Zeus Party | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | A Travesty |
Date | 03:11:01, April 14, 2008 CET | From | Autonomist Party of Solentia | To | Debating the RADNAT AGENDA 2560 |
Message | The PP and IP still have not defended their actions, if they continue not to do so my party and the citizens of Solentia will have to assume they are in favor of the buying and selling of humans. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 234 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 191 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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