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Bill: Basic Census Information
Details
Submitted by[?]: 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2575
Description[?]:
| This bill is completely OOC. Ok, so it's obvious we don't all agree on certain areas of census data, however there is some stuff I think we do need to have decided on, namely ethnicity and Religion. As it stands Sekowo has been comprised of three main cultures, Greco-Roman, Nordic and Japanese and several minor cultures, French, Normand, Native American and Native Central American. Now if you include our territories we also have a kind of peaceful lion worshiping African group and Welsh as well. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:50:50, April 16, 2008 CET | From |  帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Basic Census Information |
| Message | Here's what I propose; Ethnicity: Caucasian: 30% -Western European/North American - 20% -Nordic/Scandinavian - 10% Asian: 30% -Japanese - 30% Amerindian: 15% -North American Indian - 10% -Central American/Aztec/Maya - 5% Other: 20% -Black - 5% -Latino - 5% -Mixed 10% |
| Date | 23:57:12, April 16, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Basic Census Information |
| Message | Religion: Atheist/Agnostic - 20% Christian - 30% Spiritual but not a member of a religion - 15% Budhist - 20% Other - 15% |
| Date | 00:52:21, April 17, 2008 CET | From |  Imperial Pluralism Party | To | Debating the Basic Census Information |
| Message | We are opposed to the general (and generally accepted) idea that the Sekowan peoples can be defined in such distinct groups, with only one small "mixed" group. If the Japanese and Caucasians were to make up such a large parts of the population and to have lived together for at least a couple hundred years, there would be a great deal more mixing and integration. Clearly, the division cannot be geographical, or the nation would have torn itself apart as racially distinct peoples vied for power, or, at the very least, there would be a great deal more of political focus on race and ethnicity. One would be hard pressed to find a place where such physiologically and culturally different peoples live in peace for hundreds of years and without bringing up political issues. Sure, we could rewrite history and retroactively apply racial tensions, but the AUP does not want the history of this nation to be defined by ethnic tensions and violence. |
| Date | 00:56:31, April 17, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Basic Census Information |
| Message | People who have mixed ancestry but have a majority of one ancestry are classed in whatever ethnicity they are closest to. Mixed refers to someone who has multiple generations of different ethnic heritage. It's not that hard to imagine, I mean look at America, we've had various different ethnicities for centuries and the amount of people who are Mixed ethnicity is not that high, while the primary ethnicities have'nt shrank that much. |
| Date | 02:53:45, April 17, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Basic Census Information |
| Message | This needs to be democratic. The census results should stand. |
| Date | 03:05:36, April 17, 2008 CET | From | Imperial Pluralism Party | To | Debating the Basic Census Information |
| Message | The US white population is actually a mix of many different European ethnicities (German, Scottish, English, Irish, Italian, Spanish, Polish, etc.). The heterogeneous white group makes up something like 80% of the population. The relatively small black population (12.4%) has mixed extensively with the white population. However, the races are not completely mixed due to the highly political and historically important factors of racism and racial segregation. If something like that had occurred in Sekowo, then the lack of mixing would make sense, but not only is Sekowo made of many races, none of which constitute so vast a majority as "whites" do in America, but there have been no major problems with racial discrimination and segregation to prevent mixing. |
| Date | 05:25:44, April 17, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Basic Census Information |
| Message | Even still not everyone is keen on being in a relationship with someone one of a different ethnicity. It's unrealistic to think that everyone pays no attention to ethnicity. |
| Date | 06:14:20, April 17, 2008 CET | From | Imperial Pluralism Party | To | Debating the Basic Census Information |
| Message | it's been nearly 400 years since the founding of Sekowo. That's a long time for a piddly 10% multiracial. Ethnic tensions have rarely, if ever, played a role in our national politics. That does not reflect a racist society. But I guess that, in a very unlikely and unrealistic word, it could happen. |
| Date | 18:10:57, April 18, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Basic Census Information |
| Message | AUP is right. 10% would be too low over 400 years of multiculturalism. |
| Date | 21:51:32, April 18, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Basic Census Information |
| Message | We have'nt been multicultural for that long. We have had the current multicultural society for the last 123 years. Now also take into account the fact that the majority of each ethnicity lives in specific areas, IE the Japanese in the South-East, the Greco-Roman's in the North-West and North, the Nordic in the North-East, the Miztec in the South and the Kli'kut (Buddhist & Agnostic Native Americans) live primarily outside of Sekowo proper. |
| Date | 14:56:08, May 11, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Basic Census Information |
| Message | Oh, and this is for Sekowo proper, not the colonies. |
| Date | 16:58:50, May 11, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Communist Party | To | Debating the Basic Census Information |
| Message | No. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 135 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 263 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 202 |
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