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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of September 2562
Details
Submitted by[?]: Radical Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2563
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Telamon Minarchist Party
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Democratic Capitalist Delegation
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Radical Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Democratic Capitalist Delegation
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM)
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Democratic Capitalist Delegation
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM)
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Radical Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Radical Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Telamon Minarchist Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM)
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Telamon Minarchist Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM)
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:16:03, April 17, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | With the recent collapse of the Liberal coalition government, I feel it time to call a coalition of the centre and centre-right, reaching out to both liberal and conservative parties. Natalya Petrovskaya-Guillaume President of the Republic of Telamon |
| Date | 15:49:58, April 17, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | We support this motion by President Petrovskaya-Guillaume, and look forward to working and cooperating with the conservative powers of our great Republic. This move back to bi-partisanship, which Telamon has slipped away from in recent years, will be of great benefit to the people of Telamon. James Lott Chairman Democratic Capitalist Delegation |
| Date | 19:54:00, April 17, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | We advise COM not to join forces, because of our 'little deal'. Vojislav Krkljus Chairman of the RRP |
| Date | 20:18:09, April 17, 2008 CET | From | Telamon Minarchist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | Very "subtle" political maneuvering on the part of the RRP, as always. Lenny Nozick Party Host, Telamon Anarcho-Capitalist Party |
| Date | 21:20:49, April 17, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | We just made a private deal with them, as you did to all encourage the Radical Party's presidential candidate. Vojislav Krkljus Chairman of the RRP |
| Date | 22:48:31, April 17, 2008 CET | From | Telamon Minarchist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | That deal with COM isn't very private now, is it? Lenny Nozick Head Snake Oil Salesman Telamon Anarcho-Capitalist Party |
| Date | 22:51:02, April 17, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | We would not consider an acceptance of cabinet positions an act of the COM "joining forces," but rather as a diplomatic act showing their support of Telamon's return to bipartisanship and their willingness to cooperate with liberal parties in the near future. Given that the COM is the majority conservative party, we intended for this to be a symbolic move reaching out not only to the COM party, but to all other conservative powers as well. We hope that the RRP would not view the COM party as traitors to their cause because of an attempt to solidify a future liberal-conservative cooperation, but rather that they would view the COM party as an emissary of the conservative bloc. James Lott Chairman Democratic Capitalist Delegation |
| Date | 23:22:14, April 17, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | The RRP's lack of subtly is beyond comedic - it is actually worrying that they openly laud their own 'secret dealings' without realising the irony of their statements. Umberto Caccini Leader of the Radical Party |
| Date | 00:27:28, April 18, 2008 CET | From | United Socialist Peoples Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | The USSP is insulted that it is not offered a chance to participate in the "return to bipartisanship" |
| Date | 00:30:47, April 18, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | For over 50 years I have served Telamon as Head of the Conservative Ordo Malleus Party (in all its forms) and Prime Minister for over 40 of those years. In my time I have always pledged to work with any and all parties and entities for Telamon's benefit. On behalf of the entire COM Party I acknowledge and thank the RP for its issuance of an olive branch. COM gladly accepts. It is my hope that this signals a new age of cooperation between parties and a dissolution of extremism. Only by working together will Telamon prosper. Although we may differ in the road to travel we can all agree on its destination...a better Telamon. -Thorden Raxney, COM Party Leader |
| Date | 00:39:58, April 18, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | As President, I wish to curtail extremism and imbue our society with a natural harmony and begin a peaceful rise, economically and socially. By lending our strength to each other, and creating a multi-party government that may not agree ideologically, but are bound by the will for solidarity and a stable Telamon, we can go forward to build our dreams. I feel that the coalition proposed represents the vast majority of the Telamon people - stretching from classical liberals, to social democrats, to anarcho-capitalists, and conservatives. They four groups will ensure a stable Telamon, without polarisation and an extremist ideology that will isolate members of Telamon society. Natalya Petrovskaya-Guillaume President of the Republic of Telamon |
| Date | 01:21:09, April 18, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | The USPP is just as welcome to assist in the cooperation of opposite political wings as all other parties of Telamon. We would advise that it is only fitting to offer these cabinet positions to the COM party as not only are they the majority conservative party in power, but also the majority party period. We hope that the delegation of cabinet seatings will not be viewed by the USPP as a discouragement of bipartisan participation. James Lott Chairman Democratic Capitalist Delegation |
| Date | 02:48:45, April 18, 2008 CET | From | United Socialist Peoples Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | If the USPP is an extremist party, then it is one that is supported by some 110,884,139 people. The USPP believes that these citizens deserve representation in their government and that it is unfortunate that the other political parties seek to opress them, also we see it as ironic that by seeking to isolate no one, the Radical Party has done just that. The USPP does not seek to radically overthrow the government and create a new one in its likeness, merely to provide the people with socialist ideals with a voice with which to peacefully express their ideas to better society. It is truly unfortunate that the parties of Telamon are far more concerned with their own agendas than the people they govern. |
| Date | 03:23:33, April 18, 2008 CET | From | United Socialist Peoples Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | It is also most disappointing that after proposing a few pieces of admittedly communist legislation, it was decided that the USPP could not be negotiated with and that our ideas no longer held any value to Telamonian society. The USPP is not a communist party, it merely holds strong to the ideal that the individual has as much value as the corporation. |
| Date | 03:36:10, April 18, 2008 CET | From | United Socialist Peoples Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 2562 |
| Message | Correction: the number of USPP supporters is actually 19,576,299. I mistakenly cited the worng number. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 294 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 207 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: In cases where a party has no seat, the default presumption should be that the party is able to contribute to debates in the legislature due to one of its members winning a seat at a by-election. However, players may collectively improvise arrangements of their own to provide a satisfying explanation for how parties with no seats in the legislature can speak and vote there. |
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