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Bill: Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2564
Description[?]:
| The Conservative Party propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the volatile situation of the Federal Commonwealth of Sekowo. The continent is under constant threat. The continent must prepare. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Sales tax on luxury goods.
Old value:: 13
Current: 19
Proposed: 16
Article 2
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 80,000,000 SEK | 4,500,000 SEK | 4,500,000 SEK |
| Foreign Affairs | 500,000,000 SEK | 9,000,000,000 SEK | 9,000,000,000 SEK |
| Internal Affairs | 550,000,000 SEK | 10,000,000,000 SEK | 10,000,000,000 SEK |
| Finance | 600,000,000 SEK | 3,900,000,000 SEK | 3,900,000,000 SEK |
| Defence | 9,900,000,000 SEK | 32,000,000,000 SEK | 40,000,000,000 SEK |
| Justice | 5,000,000,000 SEK | 5,000,000,000 SEK | 5,000,000,000 SEK |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 15,000,000,000 SEK | 15,000,000,000 SEK | 15,000,000,000 SEK |
| Health and Social Services | 25,000,000,000 SEK | 31,000,000,000 SEK | 31,000,000,000 SEK |
| Education and Culture | 12,000,000,000 SEK | 20,000,000,000 SEK | 20,000,000,000 SEK |
| Science and Technology | 12,000,000,000 SEK | 25,000,000,000 SEK | 25,000,000,000 SEK |
| Food and Agriculture | 12,000,000,000 SEK | 20,000,000,000 SEK | 20,000,000,000 SEK |
| Environment and Tourism | 15,000,000,000 SEK | 14,000,000,000 SEK | 14,000,000,000 SEK |
| Trade and Industry | 11,000,000,000 SEK | 5,000,000,000 SEK | 5,000,000,000 SEK |
| Total | 118,630,000,000 SEK | 189,904,500,000 SEK | 197,904,500,000 SEK |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:51:21, April 18, 2008 CET | From |  Imperial Pluralism Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | Given the current threats facing Sekowo and Dovani, we strongly support |
| Date | 17:19:49, April 18, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | Ja. Hopefully this will be temporary as CP favours reducing taxes. |
| Date | 21:57:30, April 18, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | While we do support this we believe that the national income tax should be receiving the adjustment. OOC: I'm against using the sales tax or corporate tax because we have no idea how much that is and therefore should be ignored when it comes to where we get money. |
| Date | 01:17:57, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | OOC: You know that currently 1% of Luxury Tax is 2,301,849,057 SEK. It was about 2,250,000,000 last night. Multiply that by three gives the product of 3% or 6,905,547,172. 3% + current surplus of 1,553,741,242 SEK = 8,459,288,414. And voila, you now break even. I hope that clears up any ideas you were uncertain of and that it should not be ignored. |
| Date | 05:48:56, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Communist Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | No. |
| Date | 05:50:25, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Communist Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | Also, we wish to comment on how the Conservatives complain immensely about social spending, but as soon a possibilty for defence spending crosses the table, they jump at it. The DSP and USMC are merely in this for the additional money their private defence contracting companies might receive. Cronyism and selfishness abounds. |
| Date | 06:46:57, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | SCP talks big. Does it realize there is a threat against our nation? Please explain a classless society will stop invaders better than strong defensive systems for the Protectorates? OOC: Complain about social spending? First off, CONSERVATIVE Party is not a party for socialists. So, yes, we tend to not favour social spending. D'uh! Secondly, we do not complain immensely about social spending. We support a few good socialist ideas (like public health care - don't believe me? Go check in bill history) and reject the rest. How about this proposition: the day the Communists accept organized religion, will be the day the Conservative Party becomes the Socialist Party. And just to be straight incase you do, by Socialist Party, we mean a right-wing party with a misleading name. =) |
| Date | 06:47:30, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | ... explain how a classless ... |
| Date | 07:20:07, April 19, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | We object to these baseless and inflammatory charges. While we are pacifist leaning we have throughout our history shown that we support a strong military and believe in defending Sekowo and Dovani. |
| Date | 07:31:30, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | If certain parties were not so keen to constantly engage in Imperialism, we would not have need to keep increasing our military budget thus. |
| Date | 08:19:16, April 19, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | We do not engage in imperialism. OOC: Imperialism to me has always meant more or less invading an established nation, enslaving the people and stealing the resources there. |
| Date | 08:39:37, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | What a lie. [[Nice way to mince words to make things sound better than they are. There are already people living in the areas you are proposing Sekowo invade. You would force YOUR government and YOUR culture upon them, and exploit their resources. That's imperialism, if anything is.]] |
| Date | 08:48:09, April 19, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | OOC: Not mincing words, that's what the term Imperialism has always meant to be, like Imperial Japan, Imperial Britain etc. Anyways liberal democracy or consensus are the only acceptable forms of government, and any society that does not accept freedom ought not to be tolerated in my opinion. Now I do believe we should preserve information about cultures, but we should'nt allow them to exist if they say accept slavery or abuse of women or things like that. |
| Date | 03:13:15, April 20, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | [[Colonialism and Imperialism are generally used as cognates.]] |
| Date | 03:24:11, April 20, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | OOC: Well I don't see them as really the same thing, I see colonialism as colonizing area that either is empty or mostly empty, however I suppose my definition is more influenced by the ideas of planetary colonization, like colonizing Mars where essentially you don't have any problems accept maybe some Ludditic Greenpeace (or Redpeace in the case of Mars) idiots getting pissy. |
| Date | 04:36:38, April 20, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Communist Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | A classless society would not exactly be engaging in activities that would lead to war. Whyever would a "pacifist leaning party" manufacture weapons of war? OOC: Lol liberal democracies. "hai gaiz u kan onlee voet if u got laend n we thnk u r kool. k?" Also, learn English and stop making up definitions. That is not how a language is made. |
| Date | 04:37:14, April 20, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Communist Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | made, what the hell. I meant to say kept up. |
| Date | 06:08:05, April 20, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | Because the rest of the world is'nt pacifist. OOC: A liberal democracy has nothing to do with land, it is a democratic system i which all citizens old enough to vote can vote, as opposed to an illiberal democracy where only men or people of a specific reliugion can vote. And don't try to tell me what to do. |
| Date | 07:57:28, April 20, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Militarized Budget Proposal of February 2563 |
| Message | [[::gets the popcorn::]] |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 338 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 142 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 120 |
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