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Bill: Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565

Details

Submitted by[?]: Federal Independent Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2564

Description[?]:

Supreme President Edward Bailen's cabinet selection for his 2563 - 2565 term.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date14:51:15, April 19, 2008 CET
FromAutonomist Party of Solentia
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageThe FIP/SRNP Horse and Pony show is really disgusting. How can the FIP forgive the SRNP for their anti-humanity and ignore all the questions I pose to them?

Date14:52:25, April 19, 2008 CET
FromAutonomist Party of Solentia
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageVoting yes for this cabinet is voting to give more power to the same people who brought slavery and war to our country.

Date18:04:14, April 19, 2008 CET
FromMeritocratic Alliance
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageAPS, what war?

Date19:10:14, April 19, 2008 CET
FromFederal Republican Party
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageYou need to ask the People Party the same thing, S.R.N.P. In the government reduction act the F.R.P. proposed he is also under the impression we're preparing for war or at war. At Senate Warden I'd hope you'd find it your duty to clarify that we are not pursuing such actions-especially with the pacifist F.I.P. The People Party is also sadly amiss in his impression that it was the F.R.P. that started the discussions on the Deltarian question. As anyone who can read and pay attention knows, this was presented to the Senate by the S.R.N.P. for discussions-not a declaration of involvement. And despite your treasonous and vile actions of late, we the F.R.P. commend you for acting on the question and presenting it to the Senate. The F.R.P. however would desire other parties pay closer attention to the language and proposals on the docket; much like the situation we see here. We've no further comments.

Party Spokesman,
Ron Seigler

Date20:35:04, April 19, 2008 CET
FromMeritocratic Alliance
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageTo further concur with Mr Seigler, I will state on behalf of my party and as Senate Warden, this government has no intention or agenda to put our nation on a course to war. The record attests to it.

S.W. Harold Belisarius.

Date22:27:42, April 19, 2008 CET
FromAutonomist Party of Solentia
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageGreat job their Harold, ignore the first part and jump on the part you find offense with. Namely though I wasn't referring to your party but truly the PP who seem to be supporting this cabinet despite you not because of you.

Also, before I continue talking about war, is the SRNA made of Solentian citizens?

Date22:37:57, April 19, 2008 CET
FromSolentian People Party
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageThe only comments I would have to the FRP, is that I am supporting this cabinet because it will be a cabinet that deals with peoples concerns, improves and lowers unemployment and sorts out the foreign relations front- all the things your parties got so wrong whilst you were in the cabinet. As to the FRP's comments about my belief we were verging on war- who on earth can blame me when you told us on numerous occasions war was likely and then sparked off a range of random news report rumours citing war was around the corner and that no foreign office official would deny or confirm the rumours- you left us completely in the dark FRP and let us to believe that war was around the corner, you took transparency and democracy away from politics like you almost did with Proportional Representation and you made a shambles of the foreign affairs brief. How can anyone trust you with a ministry of anything again? You scared people into thinking war and inevitable, have we had a war yet? No.

Then on top of this FRP, you also made a bill which requested the government makes no civil defence preparations, despite saying war was a possibility. So you got this country, totally panicked about a war and proceeded to take away civil defence??? Does this not sound bizarre to anyone else? Thank goodness the FRP are out of the President post and soon the cabinet.

Martha Wheatdale, PP Leader and Whip

Date00:04:11, April 20, 2008 CET
FromMeritocratic Alliance
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageThe SRNA is entirely composed of Solentian citizens, yes. If your own party members want to break ranks and join, they're certainly welcome.

Date02:02:30, April 20, 2008 CET
FromAutonomist Party of Solentia
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageSo then how does the SRNP seperate sending Solentians to war from not war? You are a member of our nation and our senate, acting independently and involving Solentian citizens in war is indeed bringing war to our country. There are portions of the world that support Communism and your actions will bring their attention to our home front, and now you are being given even more power and responsibilities despite the misuse of them inn recent years.

Date05:46:18, April 20, 2008 CET
FromMeritocratic Alliance
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageWe will speak no more on the non-issue your party is obsessed with.

Date08:11:04, April 20, 2008 CET
FromFederal Republican Party
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageIt isn't only the APS that is "obsessed" with this; members of the A.A.T. have continued with their discussions with the F.R.P. and they are more than alarmed at your radical nature. Furthermore, it is the People Parties apparent recent change of leadership to whom the task of leading the flippant party is incapable of reading or looking at legislative acts and who proposed them. They as well have an "obsession" with the S.R.N.P's warmongering, bigoted, racist and xenophobic ideology.

Signed,
Party Spokesman Ron Seigler

Date13:46:26, April 20, 2008 CET
FromSolentian People Party
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageBeing called a warmonger from the FRP after they nearly led us to war, is rather like being called stupid, lazy and fat by Homer Simpson. Total and utter hypocrisy once again from the most war obsessed party here- FRP.

Bob Harrison, PP Leader/Whip

Date18:11:30, April 20, 2008 CET
FromFederal Republican Party
ToDebating the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 2563 - 2565
MessageWhat? Show me this obsession with a link please.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 281

no
  

Total Seats: 53

abstain
  

Total Seats: 91


Random fact: When you join the game, you will find yourself with only zero seats. That's because your party's representatives haven't been elected yet. You need to establish your party's position on issues by proposing several bills that your party wants passed and sending them to vote. This raises your visibility and if you do it enough, you will win seats at the next election.

Random quote: "When the tyrant has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or treaty, and there is nothing to fear from them, then he is always stirring up some war or other in order that the people may require a leader." - Plato

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