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Bill: Postal Service Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Republics Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2564
Description[?]:
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the post office
Old value:: There is a nationalised post office. Private post office agencies are allowed to exist, and the services provided by them are not regulated.
Current: There is a nationalised post office. Private post office agencies are allowed to exist, and the services provided by them are not regulated.
Proposed: Only private post agencies exist, and the services they provide are unregulated.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:08:00, April 19, 2008 CET |
From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Postal Service Act | | Message | You are never sure of anything. Private post office means the prices cannot be controlled and the people will suffer with higher prices, which will definately will occur. |
| Date | 06:18:53, April 19, 2008 CET |
From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Postal Service Act | | Message | If the postal office is owned by the government, then yes. Have you ever seen a country where the national government does not control a post office? |
| Date | 06:20:59, April 19, 2008 CET |
From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Postal Service Act | | Message | OOC: Many countries are moving away from nationalized post offices - Europe for example. In the U.S. and elsewhere, UPS and FedEx deliver parcels. |
| Date | 06:27:39, April 19, 2008 CET |
From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Postal Service Act | | Message | If you knew the Constitution, the United States MUST have a national post office, there is no way of getting around that. |
| Date | 06:41:18, April 19, 2008 CET |
From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Postal Service Act | | Message | "The Congress shall have power to establish post offices and post roads"
That's not saying MUST establish, merely that it can establish. Don't try to pretend that you're more educated than me - you'll fail. |
| Date | 06:51:30, April 19, 2008 CET |
From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Postal Service Act | | Message | It seems like Wikipedia is working very good for you. Maybe you are part of those that have strict interpretation of the Constution. In those times, 1789, the word shall was considered to mean more than you "may" do something. The intention of that clause in Article I was to order Congress to do it. Let me ask you something, since you interpret it word by word, then Congress doesn't have the power to close down the post office because the Constitution only say they can only establish it. is that correct? |
| Date | 12:18:40, April 19, 2008 CET |
From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Postal Service Act | | Message | If we privatize the post office the prices will be low because of the market competion between the different choices. If more than one provide the same service a capitalis economy that will push the prices down as everyone will try to have the cheapest deal to attract customers from the other |
| Date | 22:18:26, April 19, 2008 CET |
From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Postal Service Act | | Message | Businessmen always make deals and they can simply get together and agree to increase prices to increase tehir profits. The national government should have a post office to conduct its official business. |
| Date | 03:11:34, April 20, 2008 CET |
From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Postal Service Act | | Message | What you just described is a crime. The URP supports healthy competition. There is no evidence that private post offices will engage in collusion. |
| Date | 03:32:16, April 20, 2008 CET |
From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Postal Service Act | | Message | If you want to think so to make yourself happy, go ahead think that, time will tell. |
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| Vote |
Seats |
| yes | Total Seats: 62 |
| no | Total Seats: 86 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 2 |
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