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Bill: War with Sekowo
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Union Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2564
Description[?]:
http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=187160 Because of our expedition to colonise parts of Dovani, Sekowo has declared war on us. They are sending soldiers to attack New Adelia and kill everybody there. The Holy Emperor of Luthori supports us, but he is currently fighting a civil war in his own country, and can't come to our aid, which leaves us low on allies. We will send 10,000 Unionist Corps soldiers and 60,000 Pan-Terran Royalist Army militiamen to protect our settlers and lands there, but we fear it won't be enough. The Minisry of Defence has come up with this plan. 120,000 soldiers to be sent upon the passing of this bill to New Adelia. 80,000 more soldiers to be on standby 30 Royal Hutorian Navy ships to be sent to New Adelia 5 Royal Hutorian Navy ships to be on standby 400 fighter planes and 20 bomber planes to be sent to New Adelia 50 reserve fighter planes |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 12:04:14, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Hutori Conservative Council | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | We support this legislation whole-heartedly. We support these figures, though we are not sure about the 20 bombers - will 20 be enough? We know stealth bombers are expensive, but they are also one of our most important tools against the enemy. In any case, we will support this legislation and we urge other parties to do the same. We don't have time for indecision - these are dire times and we have to attack swiftly and immediately. |
Date | 12:15:41, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Union Party | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | The reason there are so few bombers is the fact we don't want to bomb our own territory. If needed, more will be called up. |
Date | 15:45:38, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Groene ArbeidersPartij | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | We don't want war. Can't we find a solution with diplomacy? |
Date | 15:48:32, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Union Party | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | No. Seriously here, Sekowo is a country hellbent on murdering our settlers and destroying our villages. She is sending troops right now to kill us for god's sake! We must take protective measures! |
Date | 16:20:26, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Viktor Schmöller Collective | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | We are more than angry at the apparently completely imcompetent CUP. Not that they apparently began a settlement, called it New Adelia, enlarged Hutori's territorry, they also blatantly ignored that this was in a protectorate of the Dovanian countries, causing the war thus completely on their own, and all this without telling any other party in Hutori about it. We have not trust whatsoever in the CUP anymore, who apparently didn't even try to prepare these acts diplomatically with the Dovanian countries, who ignored tha passed legislation of the Chief of HEF, who should have been informed about this. We will not stand for a war made out of such blatant stupidity. |
Date | 17:30:06, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Union Party | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | We believed that 'protected territory' means no mass logging, no exploitation of natural resources, and no bullying natives. We didn't realise it meant 'no exploration what-so-ever'. But, what's done is done. We will soon be at war with Sekowo, and we must prepare. May I also remind the VSC that they are notexactly perfect at controlling the Ministry of Internal Affiars, as shown by the recent Hutori Telegraph articles. |
Date | 18:34:41, April 19, 2008 CET | From | Groene ArbeidersPartij | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | I agree with the VSC. We weren't aware of this 'protected territory' and that was a mistake. We suggest blowing off the colonisation of New Adelia, evacuating the region, and moving all settlers and explorers to Vascania. This way no innocent people should die. If you agree on this, vote no on this bill! |
Date | 03:07:56, April 20, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | Sekowo has NOT YET declared war on Hutori. And hopefull it will not. We are exhorting the Folkstämma to be reasonable. |
Date | 04:17:41, April 20, 2008 CET | From | Viktor Schmöller Collective | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | May we remind the CUP that the incompetence at the ministry of internal affairs has ended recently, while this is not an excuse for the CUP to act extremely incompetent both in the ministry of foreign affairs and the ministry of defense. |
Date | 04:43:18, April 20, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | Sekowo has no idea what Hutori is doing. We have noted the new cabinet bill (http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=187371). Hopefully it will pass, this will all be settled before even one gun shot is fired. |
Date | 05:53:06, April 20, 2008 CET | From | Pan-Sekowo Freedom Alliance | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | There is no reason for war, The CUP's incompetence lead to an invasion of our territory, if they withdraw now, there is no problem, and our two nations can continue to enjoy the peace we have had for so long |
Date | 09:30:49, April 20, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Union Party | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | It is not your territory. It never was. |
Date | 10:34:44, April 20, 2008 CET | From | Hutori Conservative Council | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | We have decided to abstain from this legislation until a resolution is reached. We do not feel that there is mutual understanding between Sekowo and Hutori about the circumstances in which this war is being waged. We will only commit to war if Sekowo has indeed declared war on us, but we do not want to commit to war too hastily if there is, in actuality, no threat to our nation. |
Date | 12:31:39, April 20, 2008 CET | From | "Le Chaim" - Aesthetic Party | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | Will abstain too... |
Date | 13:01:05, April 20, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Union Party | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | We are now officially at war with Sekowo. We must fight. |
Date | 16:12:55, April 20, 2008 CET | From | Hutori Conservative Council | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | "Sekowo has officially declared war on this country. We are not pleased with this, as we feel war could have been avoided. Diplomatic avenues had not yet been exhausted, and we feel that Sekowo has rushed hastily into war with this country. But when a war against this fine country has been officially waged, we will pledge our full support to any military measure necessary in defending it. Those who have sacraficed, and will sacrafice their lives to defend this country; this soil; the values, culture and social institutions embodied by that flag, did not, and will not die in vain. May God have mercy on our enemies. God save the King." - Wesley Keaton (President of the Hutori Conservative Council) |
Date | 15:39:10, April 21, 2008 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | Our party is rallying support from the Jewish Homeland to help you. If we can not help you as a nation we will Send our militia. But This will be done under a condition that must be spoken about privately away from prying Sekowan eyes. |
Date | 05:17:04, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | It is disappointing to see CZP always looking to cause more trouble. I would like to repeat Sekowo's position that CUP brought this upon Hutori. Had they relinquished claim on the Dovani protected territory, this war would have been averted entirely. By CUP, in the name of Hutori, sending party militia to reinforce their invasion, it lead us to issue a declaration of war to protect the continent from CUP (and indirectly Hutori itself). If CUP agrees to leave Dovani and go straight back to Hutori, God will forgive their sins. Peter Kurt Baumgartner Tenno of Sekowo |
Date | 15:35:32, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the War with Sekowo |
Message | We are not starting trouble. We are just demanding our rights to colonize and open land. Diovani does not control everything nor shall it ever. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 173 | ||||
no | Total Seats: 128 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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