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Bill: Peace treaty with Lodamun
Details
Submitted by[?]: Marxist-Separatist Front Of Meria
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2565
Description[?]:
| I want to know if you agree with this: Peace treaty between Axis Mundi Likatonian Res Publica and United Republics of Lodamun Conditions concerning Likatonia: 1- Likatonia will disarm all of their military defenses at the border with Lodamun, including Nuclear Misiles. 2- Likatonia won't attack Lodamun unless Lodamun attacks first. 3- Likatonia will paid the rebuilt of Zaphograd and Charlesbourg. 4- Lodamun citizens at Likatonia won't be discriminated, discriminating Lodamun citizens will be considered a crime. 5- Likatonia will apologise internationally by the attack to Lodamun. 6- Government officials in charge when Likatonia starts a war will be judged by a court formed by five Likatonian judges and five Lodamunense judges. 7- Likatonia will cease to claim on Republic of Rapula. 8- Likatonia will recognize that they are the only responsible of the war. 9- Likatonia promises that the judgment of Likatonian govenment officers will be just. Conditions concerning Lodamun: 1- Lodamun will disarm all of their military defenses at the border with Likatonia, including Nuclear Misiles. 2- Lodamun won't attack Likatonia unless Likatonia attacks first. 3- Lodamun will paid the rebuilt of Tiorovsk. 4- Likatonia citizens at Lodamun won't be discriminated, discriminating Likatonian citizens will be considered a crime. 5- Lodamun promises that the judgment of Likatonian govenment officers will be just. Common condition- The armies won't be rebuilt inmediatly to ensure the peace between Likatonia and Lodamun. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:53:18, April 22, 2008 CET | From | Marxist-Separatist Front Of Meria | To | Debating the Peace treaty with Lodamun |
| Message | Please, if you vote against, tell us what is the weak points of this treaty to your eyes. |
| Date | 16:07:05, April 22, 2008 CET | From |  Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Peace treaty with Lodamun |
| Message | Likaton points 6, 8 and 9 |
| Date | 19:01:39, April 22, 2008 CET | From | Marxist-Separatist Front Of Meria | To | Debating the Peace treaty with Lodamun |
| Message | what are the problems with these articles? |
| Date | 19:38:53, April 22, 2008 CET | From | Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Peace treaty with Lodamun |
| Message | 6- Government officials in charge when Likatonia starts a war will be judged by a court formed by five Likatonian judges and five Lodamunense judges. This is unworkable. Andrew Moore is in exile, Alec Reynolds and Gerard Weiss are dead, and James Turner has gone into hiding. The near civil war following the Lodamun conflict mae tracking down those responsible, and then finding proof, impossible. 8- Likatonia will recognize that they are the only responsible of the war. We weren't the only ones firing nuclear weaponry on innocents. Lodamun must take their share of responsibility for the events. 9- Likatonia promises that the judgment of Likatonian govenment officers will be just. See point 6; additionally, how can we make promises about justice when the body should be neutral; Either that means you can influence the 10 judges, or they are robots who can be entirly objective about the deaths of millions. |
| Date | 22:31:13, April 22, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Peace treaty with Lodamun |
| Message | Just so you know, Andrew Moore is in the custody of Lodamun authorities, http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=186764, so atleast he can be trialed by the international tribune |
| Date | 22:44:46, April 22, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Peace treaty with Lodamun |
| Message | Most parts are very acceptable but some we will not accept. I have sent a request to your Foreign Minister to allow me to go to Likatonia with my advisors and others to negotiate the peace treaty. Please urge your Foreign Minister to accept my request. President David Porter |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 180 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 205 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 168 |
| Random fact: Real-life places should not be referenced in Particracy. |
| Random quote: “Their cheap talk of the 'greater good' is a thinly concealed excuse for subordinating the people to the institutionalized violence that is the state.” - Margaret Woodhall, former Dranian politician |