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Bill: Parliament emergency meeting

Details

Submitted by[?]: Loyalistische Partei

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2565

Description[?]:

"MESSAGE FROM MILLICENT SMITH, FOREIGN MINISTER, DEMOCRATIC-REPUBLIC OF ALORIA:

Dear Mr. Robervu,

As you know, the Imperial Diet of Luthori voted to overturn the country's longtime emperor, and begin a new era of democratic rule. Unfortunately, the emperor did not accept that decision, instead lobbying foreign monarchies from around Terra to intervene in the country on his behalf.

Our policy is to promote democracy abroad. In the face of such a clear decision to begin down the path of democracy, we felt we must intervene on the side of Republican forces in Luthori. To that effect, we have deployed 1000 military advisors to Luthori, and devoted substantial resources from our intelligence service to assist Republican forces.

But we are badly outnumbered. Several nations have forged the "Monarchist Alliance," and are devoting substantial resources to overturning the will of the Luthori Diet. We would be willing to invest more resources--if only other nations were willing to intervene for democracy along side us.

Mr. Robervu, your great democratic nation adjoins Luthori. We invite you to join a "Republican Alliance" to support the cause of freedom in Luthori against the forces of tyranny. Please advise whether you can assist.

--Millicent Smith"

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By any means we have the power and the funds to support the legaly elected new government against the forces of dictatorship. It is not our custom to intervene in other nations porblems, but this time the situation is different. Several other nations have taken direct part in fighting for the dictatorship who are trying to overthrow the legal government. Luthori's are our northern neighbours and have gone through many hardships with us in the past.

We are not fighting against the monarchy, we are fighting for the democracy. The Darnussian Military Machine has been prepared for hundreds of years without any real conflicts. They were trained for moments like this! When freedom is stomped on, when liberty is about to die. My brothers in Darnussia, I call a vote for Darnussia to enter the war to side with the legal, democratic government of Luthori. We can't just watch by when our neighbours fall into hands of foreing instituted dictatorship!

- Anton Robervou, President of Darnussia

OOC: http://www.takeforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9882&mforum=particracy

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date10:06:20, April 22, 2008 CET
FromLoyalistische Partei
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
Message"Also, us joining the republic forces would obviously strengthen them to force the monrachist alliance to get into peace talks and find a peacefull solution. The Darnussian Military would be a great threat for them and I believe this could make the peace process much, much faster. "

- General Joshua C. Mastertoni,
Minister of Defence

Date10:17:21, April 22, 2008 CET
FromLoyalistische Partei
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
Message"The situation is this: The HLE's government voted to remove it's monarchy and establish a republic by a vast majority (116 to 52). Foreign pro-monarchy forces immediately invaded, landing on the east coast. The most resistance is by republican forces in the west and republican forces lead by the Wolf Legion in the north.

Aneist forces have also reacted against claims that they are harassing the refugees being guided west and away from the war, claiming the "protection" assured by the monarchists is to lead them into the battle-strewn area of the east and south and enslave them under a militarist fascist state enforced by foreign oppressors.

Pleas have been made of the nation of Ikradon, hoping that the nation will provide a safe harbour for refugees and provide military support to keep the north secure and free of the conflict. Some respite has been gained from the fighting as the two opposing forces secure defensive positions opposite one another across the front, both claiming not to have an agressive stance. Ugran Forge spoke against the forces of Alduria and Aldegar, calling them "fascist suppressors of the will of a people" in an angered response to the monarchist maneuvers.

"

Some more information about the case.

Date12:01:59, April 22, 2008 CET
From House Villayn (AI)
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
MessageBut we monarchists are already in peace talks.

Date12:03:25, April 22, 2008 CET
From House Villayn (AI)
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
MessageWell, suit yourselves. You do not know much about what nations are supporting us.

Date12:10:06, April 22, 2008 CET
FromLoyalistische Partei
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
MessageBut the peace talks will be more balanced if we are there to back the democracy. And the positioning of Hobrazian forces in Luthori is a direct threat towards us and we need to ensure our military is ready to act instantly against them.

- General Joshua C. Mastertoni,
Minister of Defence

Date12:13:03, April 22, 2008 CET
FromLoyalistische Partei
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
MessageI also wonder why the Aldurians speak for the Luthoris so-called emperor? Perhaps he is just a puppet to rule and oppress the Luthori people?

Date12:51:56, April 22, 2008 CET
From Parti Imperial du Peuple (IA)
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
MessageOne beacuse I am married to his daughter, Mary Villayn is heiress to the Luthori Throne. Two beacuse Philippe Villayn is the Chief administrator and commander of the MLA Forces. This War is almost over, and you would be doing nothing but destorying your nation, and killing your people long with thousands of luthori and MLA Forces alike. You have no reason to go into this war. The Republic forces are balanced by having a mjority in the Diet. We urge you not to intervean. This is alomst over, and we plan to keep it that way.

Emperor Philippe Villayn II

Date13:00:32, April 22, 2008 CET
FromLoyalistische Partei
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
MessageIt will be over as soon as the Hobrazian, Beluzian and Aldurian forces are withdrawn from our Luthori border. We have nothing against the emperor or his Luthori supporters and never considered Holy Luthori Empire a threat, but foreign forces at our border is a direct threat against our safety, not to mention Hobrazian forces. We should atleast have our military fully prepared, even though we wouldn't intervene.

Date20:35:32, April 22, 2008 CET
From Parti Imperial du Peuple (IA)
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
MessageOOC:Okay one, the way you portrayed things, made it look like you were the agressor. All of the MLA Forces are under the Command of either The Imperial Chancellor, The Luthori Emperor, or myself the Aldurian Emperor. We told you we had no intention to attack you. The troops were not even facing your direction until you started making threats. Neither Zog nor Emperor Elect Matthew Nessem would into a war with you, considering that their is no reason to at this time. So all this was trully in your head. But it is in the past, so have a nice day. =)

IC:
Aldurian Troops are still there on the line, and WE HAVE NO INTENTION NOR DESIRE TO ATTACK YOU. Let me repeat that, WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO ATTACK YOU, just one more time for safety reasons, WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO ATTACK YOU. Now that we have established that, we will continue on facing the direction we always were, AWAY FROM YOUR NATION, AND TOWARDS THE REPUIBLIC FORCES. So good day Mr. President, I have a peace talk to go to.

-Emperor Philippe Villayn II

Date21:19:34, April 22, 2008 CET
FromLoyalistische Partei
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
MessageHobrazians have moved away from our border for now, so we will just see how the peace negotiaons turn out between the Luthori factions. If they fail, we have to obviously reconsider our role.

Date21:33:23, April 22, 2008 CET
From Parti Imperial du Peuple (IA)
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
MessageOOC: Why I mean have you looked at the maps, this war would be over in a matter of one month if they fall apart, so why would you risk draging it out, and risking your peoples lives and our nations lives just so we would have to devote more time to this battle.

Date21:40:18, April 22, 2008 CET
FromLoyalistische Partei
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
MessageOOC: You are not the onlyone with allies. And if I would look at the map after saying that, it looks pretty good for us.

Date02:57:24, April 23, 2008 CET
From Parti Imperial du Peuple (IA)
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
MessageOOC: We have over 10 million troops there. You have what no more than 1.4 million. We are not even at half the MLA Forces, and you still would be kicked back. You would have to pull more than 5 national armies together just to equal our current strength. That still is not the entire force that the MLA Forces could make. On top of that, your nation from a strategic point of view is horrible. You are surrounded, and then the islands could just be blockaded. That I am being serious, that is just luck of the draw on that, but it is true. There is no reason for you to get involved in this war, and in our view, you are just asking for a war with your neighbors. We would not even have though about this nation if you had not acted like you did. Those troops have been moved and the threat is gone. You are no threat to the Alliance, and we don't fear you. So why again do you seem to keep on knocking on the almost over Luthori Succession War, just too possibly drag it on. The Luthori Emperor is on our side, and we have his approval to be here. So either come to the realization that this is all in your head or try to help in the recovery of this nation, or just have a cold war with your neighbors. We have allies too, and we don't want to, and have no desire to use them for a war that has no business in starting.

Date09:34:37, April 23, 2008 CET
FromLoyalistische Partei
ToDebating the Parliament emergency meeting
MessageOOC: Well technically you have to realise that mr Robervou is a populist nationalist and all this fuzz has just gotten him more supporters. Since the peacetalks seem to bee reasonable from Darnussias perspective, all this talk after them is just collecting points. But if needed, I believe we could scrap up 6 national armies from our old and current allies.

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