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Bill: JPC - Judiciary Initiative
Details
Submitted by[?]: Judiciary Patriciate Coalition
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2566
Description[?]:
Granting further powers to the judiciary and the law to make this a safer and truer state |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The terms of extradition.
Old value:: The law bars the government from extraditing anyone who is a citizen of the state.
Current: The law does not limit the power of the government to pursue extradition treaties.
Proposed: The law does not limit the power of the government to pursue extradition treaties.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
The government's stance on illegal aliens.
Old value:: Dealing with illegal aliens is left to local governments.
Current: The government actively searches houses for illegal aliens and expels them from the country.
Proposed: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but expels them from the country when discovered.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the organization of police/law enforcement
Old value:: There is a national police department funded by the national government and there are local police departments, funded by local governments.
Current: There is a national police department, funded by the government.
Proposed: The government competitively subcontracts security management to private security firms.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The legality of slavery.
Old value:: Slavery and the slave trade are illegal.
Current: Slavery and the slave trade are illegal.
Proposed: The slave trade is illegal, but slavery is legal as a punishment.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:54:52, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | I support article 2. Article 1 was put into place to protect our govt. officials I believe. |
Date | 19:07:41, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | In what way does it protect them? |
Date | 19:10:43, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | It keeps them being extradited to other countries to face trial for whatever crimes they have likely committed. Perhaps the current set of parties don't have to worry about that. By the way, do you still have Wolf Legion forces engaged in combat anywhere? |
Date | 19:20:27, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | The Wolf Legion is at the moment engaged in the ceasefire in Luthori The administration should be as much answerable to crimes as other citizens. Also, this only leaves the government able to extradite, it may choose not to. |
Date | 19:25:14, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | But they likely would, in order to damage a political rival. They are as answerable to crime as other citizens. We don't extradite anyone. |
Date | 19:27:04, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | Which is something which will damage our foreign relations in the long term Depends who controls the government |
Date | 19:29:46, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | I wouldn't think you'd support extradition considering how you use your Wolf Legion. What if someone tries to get us to extradite your party members due to the actions of your party militia? |
Date | 19:37:53, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | Then I assume they will be tried by the highest legal court as to whether or not they are extradited. The Wolf Legion is on a humanitarian operation, its not as if they invaded and terrorized a random state. |
Date | 19:46:31, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | You think our courts are honest and politically unbiased enough to give anyone a fair trial? |
Date | 20:12:12, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | That's what the JPC is here for |
Date | 20:55:10, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | Corruption is a tradition here. |
Date | 21:07:05, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | Traditions can be broken The aims of the JPC is to make people answerable to the law, and to make the law an implement of justice. |
Date | 21:08:49, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | Laws exist to control the masses in favor of the rich. |
Date | 21:09:28, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | Grrrr.... |
Date | 21:17:29, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | Not sure if that was sarcasm or not... |
Date | 21:18:38, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | I don't think it was. |
Date | 21:23:42, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | Muahaha... |
Date | 21:31:18, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | Proposed: The government competitively subcontracts security management to private security firms. ~ Damn that ruins everything. |
Date | 21:32:37, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | I would've expected you to support that. |
Date | 21:35:04, April 23, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the JPC - Judiciary Initiative |
Message | Yes, yes. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||||
yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
no |
Total Seats: 532 | ||||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 183 |
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