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Bill: COM Importance of No Confidence Votes
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2567
Description[?]:
| Telamon is governed by a parliamentary form of government. As such it is necessary, nay vital, that parties have the right to issue a vote of no confidence. This is vital so that the true representative nature of our government can shine forth. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:10:15, April 24, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the COM Importance of No Confidence Votes |
| Message | This issue is one that stands at the core of our party's belief system. We have long pledged to be representative of the people and they, as citizens in our parliamentary form of government, acknowledge and know that a parliamentary form of government MUST have the right to issue a vote of no confidence. Our stance on this issue will not change based on who is serving as Prime Minister. We believe this to be a fundamental right of all citizens and their parliamentary representatives. -Thorden Raxney COM Party Leader |
| Date | 22:17:55, April 24, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the COM Importance of No Confidence Votes |
| Message | OOC: Frankly, I think without the sole right to choose his own cabinet, the president and his office is just a formality. I think it makes the game more interesting, and so regardless of who the prime minister is, will support the constitutional clause as it stands. |
| Date | 02:22:48, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the COM Importance of No Confidence Votes |
| Message | OOC: The President has duties as outlined by the Cabinet. However, without the ability to do a vote of no confidence there is no point to the parliamentary system that is used in Telamon. Unfortunately, Particracy doesn't have a formalized vote of no confidence method aside of the cabinet system. Technically speaking the President would ask the Prime Minister to form a new government in the case of a vote of no confidence since that vote only applies to the Prime Minister. Therefore, the vote isn't against the President but the PM. Particracy focuses on the legislative branch and to that end the Head of State will always be, no matter what nation it is, in the back seat compared to the legislature (whether known as a Parliament, a Senate or whatnot). I have to say that I will continue to bring this issue up at least once every election cycle until this changes. It is one of the core mechanics to this system and it is necessary to have. |
| Date | 03:56:15, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Telamon Minarchist Party | To | Debating the COM Importance of No Confidence Votes |
| Message | I'd say the ability to call a special election constitutes at least a similar ability as a vote of no confidence; if you can get a majority to call for another election and then the situation doesn't change then the people have spoken and if they do then they've spoken in that fashion. Hence we vote to keep the ability to decide cabinet as it is. Leonard Nozick Party Leader, Telamon Anarcho-Capitalist Party |
| Date | 07:53:17, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the COM Importance of No Confidence Votes |
| Message | OOC: A special election doesn't replace the cabinet and thus the Prime Minister. It only replaces the President and the arrangement of seats in Parliament. As such it isn't a vote of no confidence. The Prime Minister runs the legislature, not the President. |
| Date | 18:41:45, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the COM Importance of No Confidence Votes |
| Message | OOC: Given that we agree that Particracy focuses on the legislative branch, why is it so important to be able to call for a vote of no confidence in the executive branch? |
| Date | 23:03:12, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the COM Importance of No Confidence Votes |
| Message | OOC: The Prime Minister isn't the executive per se. The PM is in charge of Parliament. I mentioned, in my previous post, what I did to respond to the TACP's statement. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 194 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 307 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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