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Bill: Racial Purity Bill 2566

Details

Submitted by[?]: National Socialist Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2568

Description[?]:

To ensure Endralon remains a pure nation and a purest race.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:55:11, April 24, 2008 CET
From Chidan Party
ToDebating the Racial Purity Bill 2566
MessageThere have been many accusations made by the right, questioning the morality of our party, we ask other, not so extreme right wing parties to examine this proposal and realize what true immorality looks like. We welcome proposals like this, feeling that they highlight the danger for other less extreme right wing parties, of falling into right wing extremity.

Date23:01:51, April 24, 2008 CET
From National Socialist Party
ToDebating the Racial Purity Bill 2566
MessageThe Chidan Party, with all its moral high ground and complexion is blinded by sheer Bolshevik & Jewish poison in which they are happy to stab the nation in the back in the pursuit of a corrup ethic.

Date02:30:39, April 25, 2008 CET
From Endralon Confederates Party
ToDebating the Racial Purity Bill 2566
MessageRight wing?


Right wing?

This party is called the National SOCIALIST Party. They are of your make Chidan.

Date07:58:48, April 25, 2008 CET
From New Liberal Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Racial Purity Bill 2566
MessageWe agree ECP. National Socialism is still socialism, even if it had nationalist undertones that might other wise be associated with right-wing politics. Right-wing means economic freedom, spontaneous order, and piecemeal social change. Nazis believe in a corporatist state, a strictly hierarchical society and radicalism.

In fact, Adolf Hitler said that social democrats had it right except for two things:

1. Democracy
2. Internationalism

Ss don't be so smug next time Chidan. Perhaps you are the one on the wrong side.

Date14:28:01, April 25, 2008 CET
From Chidan Party
ToDebating the Racial Purity Bill 2566
MessagePutting socialist in their name does NOT mean they have the same ideals as our party. Democracy and internationalism, exactly, two of the fundamental beliefs of left wing politics. Clearly this party's views are much closer to the right wing beliefs of this nation than the left. THAT goes without saying, regardless of what they refer to themselves as.

Date15:26:31, April 25, 2008 CET
From National Socialist Party
ToDebating the Racial Purity Bill 2566
MessageNational Socialism is the strengthening of the nation state in that the people and organs of the state work for the greater good of the nation - it has nothing to do with Bolshevism or Marxist socialism.

Date17:09:49, April 25, 2008 CET
From New Liberal Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Racial Purity Bill 2566
MessageChidan, whenever socialism has been put into practice the first two ideals to be abandoned have been internationalism and democracy.

Internationalism because it impossible for the proletariat to unify across national boundaries. Stalin called his modified version of socialism 'socialism in one country'.

Democracy because power is too centralised and because a command economy requires responsive and arbitrary decision making to be able to adapt to changes in the economy, and so the decision makers must be unaccountable to elected bodies and be given the broadest powers possible.

Socialists and national socialists have different goals, but their societies always end up similar in the end. This state of affairs is called totalitarianism.

However, we believe the Chidan Party would be more accurately described as social democrat than socialist, and to its credit. It has shown a committment to liberal-democratic institutions, despite its misguided belief in social equality.

Date17:46:56, April 25, 2008 CET
From Alliance 44
ToDebating the Racial Purity Bill 2566
MessageCouldn't agree with you more. Well, actually I could, if you spared your comment the remark on the idea of social equality I can only partially agree with.

Date17:48:49, April 25, 2008 CET
From Chidan Party
ToDebating the Racial Purity Bill 2566
MessageYou are describing left wing extremism, which we, as already stated, do not condone. We do not believe a nation should be governed by any form of extremism, left or right.
We accept the term, social democrat, and believe that a society functions best with a healthy balance, avoiding the dangers of extremist politics.

Date22:19:01, April 25, 2008 CET
From Endralon Confederates Party
ToDebating the Racial Purity Bill 2566
MessageIndeed, the "right-wing" which the ECP identifies itself with is one that stands for local rights, individual liberties, economic freedom, and minimalist government. What the National Socialists stand for we usually identify with liberal political thoughts (liberal in the modern meaning of course, as we would classify ourselves as classical-liberals if it came to it).

Also, we would like to say that the ECP has been a little harsh on the Chidan party recently, they are quite a moderate party most of the time and are in no way radical socialists or anything (however I frown upon their endorsement of the SRP).

In regards to extremist politics I have only this to say, “I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

Date09:56:59, April 27, 2008 CET
From New Liberal Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Racial Purity Bill 2566
MessageHear Hear!

We classify ourselves as right-wing because we support the rule of law, spontaneous order, free markets as the most efficient and fair way to distribute scant resources, political liberty, tradition as the basis of social knowledge, etc. These are ideals that spring from liberalism, or 'classical' liberalism as it is so-called today.

Friedrich Hayek used the terms Evolutionary Liberalism and Burkean Whig.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 50

no
       

Total Seats: 700

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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