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Bill: Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag
Details
Submitted by[?]: Aldurian Protectorate Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2567
Description[?]:
Our flag is a treasured symbol of our people, their ancestors, and their future descendents, it should be honoured by all. This is an issue the left and right should be able to unite over. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National policy regarding the desecration of the national flag.
Old value:: There are no regulations regarding the desecration or use of the national flag.
Current: The national flag may not be desecrated or used for commercial purposes.
Proposed: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 21:49:34, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | Support. |
Date | 00:10:34, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Communist Party of Kafuristan | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | Against. (We would rather see our flag's image disrespected on free contraceptives than being respected & commercialized.) |
Date | 00:13:34, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | Opposed |
Date | 00:13:45, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | This is closer to the preferred law than what we have now. |
Date | 10:41:50, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | We refuse to enhance the symbolic meaning of our national flag, as that would insult our people's rights and freedoms. |
Date | 12:24:41, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Aldurian Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | Our country is far more important than something as meaningless as rights and freedoms. |
Date | 12:51:24, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | I would strong oppose to such a harsh statement. |
Date | 13:42:42, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Aldurian Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | The country will last for ever. Values change between generations. |
Date | 13:53:12, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Aldurian Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | We see this is unlikely to pass but still want a vote. |
Date | 13:55:19, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Communist Party of Kafuristan | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | Then let us protect the environment to ensure the former statement is true. It is stange - - you speak of rights, freedoms, and their worthlessness, whilst you protect the rights of conglomerations to market the national brand you profess so dearly. |
Date | 13:56:18, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Communist Party of Kafuristan | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | ("the former statement" in reference to "The country will last forever") |
Date | 14:00:31, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Aldurian Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | We are in no way protecting the rights of companies to market the national brand, we simply see no point in denying companies from putting the flag on products. For example foodstuffs made in Kafuristan would typically have a Kafuri flag on the product, what is wrong with this? Nothing. But a Communist or foreigner desecrating the flag is another matter. |
Date | 14:13:45, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | The above legislation is issued for every citizen. |
Date | 14:21:20, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Aldurian Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | Yes, of course. |
Date | 14:22:46, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | Even from our point of view, we happen to agree with CPK. |
Date | 14:23:07, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | "This is an issue the left and right should be able to unite over." Or even to divide the right. |
Date | 04:32:24, April 27, 2008 CET | From | Kafuristan Revolutionary Socialist Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Nationalism - The Flag |
Message | State is not god. I opposed. Ultimately state should be broken down according to marxism. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 306 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 409 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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