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Bill: GJA Personal Responsibility II - 5.04.2567.AD

Details

Submitted by[?]: New Socialist Agenda

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2568

Description[?]:

"Without the government recommending health and safety standards, private organizations would do so. And if it is in the financial interests of these businesses to make sure the people know who and what is safe, and who and what is not, the people are going to end up knowing, and private health and safety standards would be MUCH more efficient than any law."
-Raamiah Galgenstrick,
Chairman of the GJA
Foreign Minister of the SJHB

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date15:26:07, April 27, 2008 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the GJA Personal Responsibility II - 5.04.2567.AD
Message"Without the government recommending health and safety standards, private organizations would do so"

Wrong.

"And if it is in the financial interests of these businesses to make sure the people know who and what is safe, and who and what is not,"

It is in the financial interests of these businesses to cut costs such as health and safety to increase profit They can get new workers, they can pay them less, the lives of others are irrelevant to them.

This bill is nothing short of a covert attempt to see the people of Beiteynu enslaved to businesses and to see their lives eventually cut short.

-- Tamir Kirschenbaum

Date15:36:47, April 27, 2008 CET
FromNew Socialist Agenda
ToDebating the GJA Personal Responsibility II - 5.04.2567.AD
Message""Without the government recommending health and safety standards, private organizations would do so"

Wrong."

Apparently the Ma'avak cannot even support its own arguments. It simply stupidly makes blank one-word statements backed by nothing. There is profit potential in providing health and safety information - information is worth money.

"It is in the financial interests of these businesses to cut costs such as health and safety to increase profit. They can get new workers, they can pay them less, the lives of others are irrelevant to them."

I was referring to those that make money out of providing health and safety information.

Those that are in other businesses lose business when criticized by such organizations.

"This bill is nothing short of a covert attempt to see the people of Beiteynu enslaved to businesses and to see their lives eventually cut short."

The very existence of your party is nothing short of a covert attempt to gain absolute power over the Jewish people, to enslave them, to torture them, and take everything for yourselves. You are nothing more than a group of criminal hoodlums disguised with the euphemism of "political party." And we will NOT entertain the retraction of the previous statement."
-Raamiah Galgenstrick,
Chairman of the GJA
Foreign Minister of the SJHB

Date15:42:34, April 27, 2008 CET
FromJewish Mothers' Union
ToDebating the GJA Personal Responsibility II - 5.04.2567.AD
MessageThere will always be employers who, given the opportunity, will be unscrupulous enough to exploit sweated labour under hideous conditions. It is the duty of government to stand up to this.


Melanie Koffenbaum (Leader of the JMU)

Date15:58:22, April 27, 2008 CET
FromNew Socialist Agenda
ToDebating the GJA Personal Responsibility II - 5.04.2567.AD
Message"The government has no such duty. In those cases, it is the duty of the employees to strike or quit. No one should have to put up with poor conditions, and those who do are the ones to blame for all terrible working conditions that exist in this world.

You act as if employment is involuntary. It is voluntary contract, and that is precisely what it is.

If anything, the employees that put up with such conditions are the ones who should be punished. But that would be just as statist as the current law, so we cannot support it."
-Raamiah Galgenstrick,
Chairman of the GJA
Foreign Minister of the SJHB

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 90

no
     

Total Seats: 266

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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