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Bill: GJA Personal Responsibility VI - 5.10.2567.AD
Details
Submitted by[?]: New Socialist Agenda
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2568
Description[?]:
| "No one is entitled to anything." -Raamiah Galgenstrick, Chairman of the GJA Foreign Minister of the SJHB |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Pharmaceutical drugs policy.
Old value:: The government subsidises the cost of pharmaceutical drugs for people on low incomes.
Current: The government pays for all citizens' pharmaceutical drugs.
Proposed: The government does not subsidise the cost of pharmaceutical drugs at all.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:23:18, April 27, 2008 CET | From |  Ma'avak | To | Debating the GJA Personal Responsibility VI - 5.10.2567.AD |
| Message | "Everyone is entitled to life. Noone is entitled to capital. Sadly the GJA fails to see this." -- Tamir Kirschenbaum |
| Date | 15:32:07, April 27, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Agenda | To | Debating the GJA Personal Responsibility VI - 5.10.2567.AD |
| Message | "You are entitled to life so long as you support yourself. No one is entitled to support from society. Sadly the Ma'avak fails to see this." -Raamiah Galgenstrick, Chairman of the GJA Foreign Minister of the SJHB |
| Date | 15:35:05, April 27, 2008 CET | From | Ma'avak | To | Debating the GJA Personal Responsibility VI - 5.10.2567.AD |
| Message | "You fail to see that many people have not the means to support themselves. You system is one where people are born into poverty, forced to live in poverty, forced to get an underpaid job at an unsafe factory with no assurance that they will have that job the next day. Then are then unable to pay for educational prospects, unable to pay for healthcare and unable to pay for, in this case, pharmaceutical drugs. They will be left dying and poor while the businesses of Beiteynu make more and more capital. This is unfair and nothing short of state sanctioned murder." -- Tamir Kirschenbaum |
| Date | 15:37:10, April 27, 2008 CET | From | Jewish Mothers' Union | To | Debating the GJA Personal Responsibility VI - 5.10.2567.AD |
| Message | Amen to that, Tamir! Melanie Koffenbaum (Leader of the JMU) |
| Date | 15:52:17, April 27, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Agenda | To | Debating the GJA Personal Responsibility VI - 5.10.2567.AD |
| Message | "It is true that there are people born into poverty. But there is no reason a strong-willed, intelligent person would be forced to live in poverty and get underpaid jobs they might not have the next day. Those who lack ambition and intelligence all deserve to starve on the streets. But thankfully, there is something called charity that gets them warm meals anyway. And you do not need to be able to afford education upfront to get education. You can easily take out educational loans if you are deemed to have any potential whatsoever. If you have no potential, then you do not need education. And as for healthcare, there are such things as emergency loans and emergency insurance that can pay for healthcare costs with low interest rates afterwards. And the payments for that are much lower than what they would pay for the taxes required to fund public healthcare. And if you're too incompetent and weak-willed to be able to afford even relatively cheap free market healthcare or the emergency loan interest rates, then you don't deserve healthcare. "They will be left dying and poor while the businesses of Beiteynu make more and more capital. This is unfair and nothing short of state sanctioned murder." The only people that will be left dying and poor will be the incompetent, unintelligent, and weak-willed, and they are then getting what they deserve. Anyone with brains, skills, and/or ambition will never have to worry about living paycheck-to-paycheck. And even over time, society, because of the immense wealth generated by my system, the incompetent, unintelligent, and weak-willed will live comfortably. But what about the long waiting for transplants and surgery in public healthcare systems? What about those who wait so long that they die while waiting? Is this not state-sanctioned murder? And what about the constant infestation of humanity and society with incompetence, ill-intelligence, low self-esteem, fear, and weak-will? What about the silent and slow butchering and murder of humanity and what it is all about? What about herding of men like sheep? The turning of humans into livestock, which is precisely what socialists like yourself want, while you eat your big fat salaries, much higher than anyone can achieve in a free market? You and other socialists are nothing short of disgraceful thieves - petty thieves." -Raamiah Galgenstrick, Chairman of the GJA Foreign Minister of the SJHB |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 144 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 212 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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