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Bill: Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
Details
Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2114
Description[?]:
The AAP has been debating the issue of media content. Our AAP council has approached the issue from many different angles, and believes that we may have a solution to the thorny problem of how to ALLOW media-freedom, and also, protect 'truth' and limit infringement of liberty of persons or groups. The AAP suggestion is that we allow ANY content - thus allowing a true 'freedom of the press'. However: media publishers would ALSO be required to operate under the proviso that ALL media carry disclaimers where falsity is known, and/or content may be offensive. Amendment language: This Billis intended to remove (or, at least, limit) the possibility of sanctions against publishers for content, and the reactions content provokes - whilst under the 'banner' of clearly-marked disclaimers. So - for example, if a media outlet WANTS to trade in falsehoods, they have the protected right, but they are not allowed to misrepresent it as truth - since they will be required to clearly identify the fact that content may not be true. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding regulation of media content.
Old value:: There are laws against the publication of false information and hate speech.
Current: There are laws against the publication of false information and hate speech.
Proposed: There are no content regulations; the media may publish anything, even proven falsehoods.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 06:44:16, September 18, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word |
Message | While the idea of allowing ANY content may SEEM counter-intuitive, the AAP begs all the representatives to thoroughly read the Bill language. |
Date | 10:13:09, September 18, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word |
Message | How would a paper establish that it is a falsehood before it is in print. Some of the trashy tabloid papers, which thrive on celebrity gossip will simply be printing just that, gossip, and will rarely be able to verify the facts with the 'celebrity' in question. |
Date | 14:49:23, September 18, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word |
Message | I think my friends in the AAP have misunderstood. Under current laws it is still legal to print falsehoods with a 'disclaimer'. For example they could say 'Mr x says that mrs y did such and such, but we have no proof for this statement' that is not a falsehood, taken as an entire sentence, and therefore would be allowed under current law. What you are proposing is hardly different. The LPE feels that the current law is a little restrictive, and would like to see it amended to 'There are laws against the publication of false information and speech which incites violence against others'. However no such option exists, so we are forced to support the current position. |
Date | 14:58:33, September 18, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word |
Message | We feel that hate speech must be allowed. After the creation of a Republic, several prominant Royalists wre arrested under 'Hate Speech' laws for suggesting that "republicans should be hung as the traitors they are", they are still awaiting their trial. |
Date | 18:05:34, September 18, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word |
Message | Response to the LPE: We direct LPE attention to some of the 'amusing' newspapers of other nations. Such papers may print stories that claim aliens conceived Elvis' lovechild, for example. There is no evidence offered, there is no attempt to ameliorate the obvious falsehood within the text. But, by placing an indicator on the cover, for example, such material is able to be freely published. It is like music labelling... so long as it is clearly marked on the cover, it is 'let the buyer beware'. The AAP thinks this the perfect solution to the dichotomy between freedom of the press, and honesty in journalism. Effectively, in short order, the LACK of such markings on a cover will become a 'badge of pride'... a testament to the honesty of the journalist. |
Date | 01:37:48, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word |
Message | I believe it has been at least two months since the last commentary passed on this matter, and that was by the AAP. The AAP is therefore pushing this matter to a close, with all due expediency. |
Date | 10:44:36, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word |
Message | Well, we have been convinced of your arguments as concerns false information. However there is still the question of speech which incites violence. We cannot support laws which allow that. With heavy hearts, we must oppose this motion. |
Date | 13:16:26, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word |
Message | The AAP believes that the LPE must ALWAYS vote as conscience dictates. Perhaps the AAP think-tank can work an angle that deals with violence, before we bring this matter back before the Likatonian assembly. We thank the LPE for their consideration, and their assistance in this matter. |
Date | 20:21:26, September 19, 2005 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word |
Message | The RLP will always support increasing freedom in the media. We presume that libel suits would still be a possibility if false information is published about someone. |
Date | 00:38:14, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word |
Message | The current AAP thinking is: a paper could carry a logo on the front that clearly marked the content as speculative, and/or untrue... and/or inflammatory. UNDER that banner, there would be no right to sue for libel, although the media owner COULD still be held responsible for 'incitement' in the case of hate-speech. The idea would be that the 'logo' on the cover CLEARLY identifies the paper as a 'fictional' medium... thus, no libel is possible. Of course, if the label was obscured, or not present - or if the article in question actually CLAIMED to be true, you could possibly argue that libel laws would apply. |
Date | 14:32:39, September 20, 2005 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word |
Message | I agree that libel suits would not be possible if thus identified, but I would suggest going further and relieving the publisher from responsibility for incitement as well in this case. Over all, we will support this expansion of the freedom to publish. |
Date | 22:27:22, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word |
Message | RLP: concerns taken on board, small amendment made, motion to vote. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 122 | |||
no | Total Seats: 153 | |||
abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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