Main | About | Tutorial | FAQ | Links | Wiki | Forum | World News | World Map | World Ranking | Nations | Electoral Calendar | Party Organizations | Treaties |
Login | Register |
Game Time: January 5475
Next month in: 02:31:36
Server time: 17:28:23, April 25, 2024 CET
Currently online (0): Record: 63 on 23:13:00, July 26, 2019 CET

We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.

Bill: Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word

Details

Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 2114

Description[?]:

The AAP has been debating the issue of media content. Our AAP council has approached the issue from many different angles, and believes that we may have a solution to the thorny problem of how to ALLOW media-freedom, and also, protect 'truth' and limit infringement of liberty of persons or groups.

The AAP suggestion is that we allow ANY content - thus allowing a true 'freedom of the press'.

However: media publishers would ALSO be required to operate under the proviso that ALL media carry disclaimers where falsity is known, and/or content may be offensive.

Amendment language: This Billis intended to remove (or, at least, limit) the possibility of sanctions against publishers for content, and the reactions content provokes - whilst under the 'banner' of clearly-marked disclaimers.

So - for example, if a media outlet WANTS to trade in falsehoods, they have the protected right, but they are not allowed to misrepresent it as truth - since they will be required to clearly identify the fact that content may not be true.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date06:44:16, September 18, 2005 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
MessageWhile the idea of allowing ANY content may SEEM counter-intuitive, the AAP begs all the representatives to thoroughly read the Bill language.

Date10:13:09, September 18, 2005 CET
FromConservative Liberal Party
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
MessageHow would a paper establish that it is a falsehood before it is in print. Some of the trashy tabloid papers, which thrive on celebrity gossip will simply be printing just that, gossip, and will rarely be able to verify the facts with the 'celebrity' in question.

Date14:49:23, September 18, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Party for Equality
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
MessageI think my friends in the AAP have misunderstood. Under current laws it is still legal to print falsehoods with a 'disclaimer'. For example they could say 'Mr x says that mrs y did such and such, but we have no proof for this statement' that is not a falsehood, taken as an entire sentence, and therefore would be allowed under current law. What you are proposing is hardly different.

The LPE feels that the current law is a little restrictive, and would like to see it amended to

'There are laws against the publication of false information and speech which incites violence against others'.
However no such option exists, so we are forced to support the current position.

Date14:58:33, September 18, 2005 CET
FromConservative Liberal Party
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
MessageWe feel that hate speech must be allowed. After the creation of a Republic, several prominant Royalists wre arrested under 'Hate Speech' laws for suggesting that "republicans should be hung as the traitors they are", they are still awaiting their trial.

Date18:05:34, September 18, 2005 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
MessageResponse to the LPE: We direct LPE attention to some of the 'amusing' newspapers of other nations. Such papers may print stories that claim aliens conceived Elvis' lovechild, for example.

There is no evidence offered, there is no attempt to ameliorate the obvious falsehood within the text. But, by placing an indicator on the cover, for example, such material is able to be freely published.

It is like music labelling... so long as it is clearly marked on the cover, it is 'let the buyer beware'. The AAP thinks this the perfect solution to the dichotomy between freedom of the press, and honesty in journalism.

Effectively, in short order, the LACK of such markings on a cover will become a 'badge of pride'... a testament to the honesty of the journalist.

Date01:37:48, September 19, 2005 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
MessageI believe it has been at least two months since the last commentary passed on this matter, and that was by the AAP.

The AAP is therefore pushing this matter to a close, with all due expediency.

Date10:44:36, September 19, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Party for Equality
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
MessageWell, we have been convinced of your arguments as concerns false information. However there is still the question of speech which incites violence. We cannot support laws which allow that. With heavy hearts, we must oppose this motion.

Date13:16:26, September 19, 2005 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
MessageThe AAP believes that the LPE must ALWAYS vote as conscience dictates. Perhaps the AAP think-tank can work an angle that deals with violence, before we bring this matter back before the Likatonian assembly.

We thank the LPE for their consideration, and their assistance in this matter.

Date20:21:26, September 19, 2005 CET
FromAM Radical Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
MessageThe RLP will always support increasing freedom in the media. We presume that libel suits would still be a possibility if false information is published about someone.

Date00:38:14, September 20, 2005 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
MessageThe current AAP thinking is: a paper could carry a logo on the front that clearly marked the content as speculative, and/or untrue... and/or inflammatory.

UNDER that banner, there would be no right to sue for libel, although the media owner COULD still be held responsible for 'incitement' in the case of hate-speech.

The idea would be that the 'logo' on the cover CLEARLY identifies the paper as a 'fictional' medium... thus, no libel is possible.

Of course, if the label was obscured, or not present - or if the article in question actually CLAIMED to be true, you could possibly argue that libel laws would apply.

Date14:32:39, September 20, 2005 CET
FromAM Radical Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
MessageI agree that libel suits would not be possible if thus identified, but I would suggest going further and relieving the publisher from responsibility for incitement as well in this case.

Over all, we will support this expansion of the freedom to publish.

Date22:27:22, September 20, 2005 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - The Word
MessageRLP: concerns taken on board, small amendment made, motion to vote.

subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe

Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 122

no
   

Total Seats: 153

abstain
  

Total Seats: 0


Random fact: "Doxxing", or the publishing of personally identifiable information about another player without permission, is forbidden.

Random quote: "Conservatives define themselves in terms of what they oppose." - George Will

This page was generated with PHP
Copyright 2004-2010 Wouter Lievens
Queries performed: 68