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Bill: Advertising Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Republics Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2583
Description[?]:
| Bans all LP propoganda. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on advertising
Old value:: All advertising is permitted.
Current: All advertising is permitted.
Proposed: All advertising is prohibited.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:22:36, May 05, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | Bans all political advertising, but does limit the freedom of speech severly |
| Date | 01:28:39, May 05, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | I am telling you this only once more. Retract from your comments, URP, or you will face criminal charges. |
| Date | 01:29:03, May 05, 2008 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | what comments? |
| Date | 01:35:39, May 05, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | The one on the description. |
| Date | 01:38:17, May 05, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | What criminal charges would you prosecute the URP for? |
| Date | 01:41:26, May 05, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | Trying to prevent the freedom of speech of members of my party by only singling out my party and trying to provoke a rebellion and use of violence against my party's officials. That applies for the other bill too. |
| Date | 02:37:44, May 05, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | Well as long as you know you cant prosecute through the supreme court, this would have to be taken through a lower court instance |
| Date | 02:46:56, May 05, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | It would eventually reach the Supreme Court because of appeal. I don't see how this cannot get to the Supreme Court. |
| Date | 06:19:23, May 05, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | I hate how this has become. LLP I know officially know why you don't trust the government. It's because it's run by complete morons. Look at this we've got a party trying to sue a party at the Supreme Court about some unoffensive comment. A party who gains presidency and makes a total fool of themselves until they're kicked out by the country. A whole bunch of parties taking sides when there should only be one side: "For The Country". And to top that all up almost half the parties went inactive and now we've got to put together the unmatching pieces. |
| Date | 06:42:00, May 05, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | First of all, show more respect. You receive respect, you must respect. If you don't want this to happen tell your friends from the URP to back off. I take any comments that will promote violence against my party very seriously. You can criticize my years as president you want but if it wasn't for me being tough, and the cooperation of the LLP, this country wouldn't exist anymore. I acted tough because the situation called for it. This is how politics work, you take sides. If you can't deal with it, I suggest you retire. |
| Date | 14:06:25, May 05, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | The supreme court only makes ruling on cases where the constitutionality is in question. If its not then it will just be sent back down to a lower court |
| Date | 14:07:25, May 05, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | And as for the actual article in this bill, I oppose it |
| Date | 19:39:25, May 05, 2008 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | The Supreme Court could take this case since it was established as a criminal court. I'm unsure what the charges would be. Also, to actually prosecute for criminal charges, I believe the Justice Minister would have to agree with the LP. |
| Date | 20:58:07, May 05, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | Not really, the executive and judiciary branches are seperated, so the Minister of Justice dosent control what cases goes to court |
| Date | 21:53:17, May 05, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | The Minister of Justice does not have to intervene whatsoever. The prosecutor of the case would come from lower court, so it won't be the Minister of Justice. If I make a claim on this case, the government must prosecute. It would be jus like any real life case. Someone claims something happened, the government prosecutes. |
| Date | 22:56:30, May 05, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | I will not pursue criminal charges unless the URP does something leading to violence. Let's this not happen again. URP, next time be careful with your comments. I don't want this problem to lead to any violence. I hope you agree with me on this. |
| Date | 05:23:11, May 06, 2008 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | The LP doesn't scare me. I will not censor myself. The LP should just learn to play well with others. |
| Date | 05:47:04, May 06, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | You see what I'm saying, I am trying to make peace and he comes back with more offensive comments. I play well with others, except you. You are a stubborn, ignorant person, who doesn't deserve my attention. It is not very often that I play nice, so I suggest you take this offer of peace and let's end this problem now. I won't be the person to blame if this escalates to something bigger. |
| Date | 06:22:48, May 06, 2008 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | The LP needs to learn how to read: 1. "I am trying to make peace" - How? By continuing to "not pursue criminal charges?" You had no authority to charge me in the first place. I invited you to press charges since it would vindicate my party. 2. "he comes back with more offensive comments" - What offensive comment did I make? 3. "You are a stubborn, ignorant person" - It's funny how you are trying to make peace and then insult me . It's also funny that I'm accused of making offensive comments (which I did not) and then you actually make offensive comments. 4. "I won't be the person to blame if this escalates to something bigger." - Wasn't the whole point of your post to escalate the conflict? If this is how you make peace, it should be obvious why a treaty with Likatonia has yet to be signed. |
| Date | 06:25:34, May 06, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | Date 06:42:00, May 05, 2008 CET From The Liberal Party To Debating the Advertising Act Message First of all, show more respect. You receive respect, you must respect. If you don't want this to happen tell your friends from the URP to back off. I take any comments that will promote violence against my party very seriously. You can criticize my years as president you want but if it wasn't for me being tough, and the cooperation of the LLP, this country wouldn't exist anymore. I acted tough because the situation called for it. This is how politics work, you take sides. If you can't deal with it, I suggest you retire. Woah, The party who made a fool of themselves in presidency refers to me, but go ahead and criticize yourself about it. Gosh, I wouldn't purposely stick my foot in my mouth. Why do you think I'm attacking you all the time? I will not take sides no more, I'm really tired of it. We should be fighting for a treaty not between ourselves. I can't stand this "war" no more, it's not even a war! |
| Date | 06:31:02, May 06, 2008 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | The URP stands with the PI in the cause for peace and against the incompetent Liberals who have been unable to negotiate a treaty. He has held the Foreign Ministry for years - promising peace yet delivering nothing. I believe it's time for the Liberals to stop blaming Likatonia and take responsibility. The LP should be replaced or the President should negotiate a treaty himself. |
| Date | 06:38:46, May 06, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | URP, Liberals now includes all three of them and LR has nothing to do with this at the moment. I understand what your saying but find a better word. Also I'm trying not to take sides. We do want peace though, it's at top most importance. Likatonia doesn't matter, what matters is that we set up an arrangement so they won't try to take Rapula, and we don't end up killing people with weapons of mass destruction. If we should learn anything it's that such weapons should not be on our defenses list, it only kills citizens. |
| Date | 06:40:49, May 06, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | To the URP: If you actually read my post before, I offered you to leave this at this and make peace. You came back and said "The LP doesn't scare me. I will not censor myself. The LP should just learn to play well with others." Aren't those offensive comments? I will not pursue criminal charges because it would create more problems than we already have. I did have the authority to accuse you and the government would then need to prosecute. I only replied to your offensive comments. If you were able to control yourself, we wouldn't have this problems. To PI: You are referring to me as a fool . Yeah, that is respect. Well, I can guess why you are always attacking me, defending your friends from the URP. I would be nice if you didn't take sides. Like it or not, it is a war. It seems that you still haven't read my post in which I showed evidence of my efforts. I also proposed a treaty that Likatonia refused to ratify. In this treaty I proposed that Likatonia had to stop all their claims in Rapula. |
| Date | 06:51:23, May 06, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | LP: I don't know how to explain this more clearly. This was my post: Date 06:19:23, May 05, 2008 CET From Pariah Idealism To Debating the Advertising Act Message I hate how this has become. LLP I know officially know why you don't trust the government. It's because it's run by complete morons. Look at this we've got a party trying to sue a party at the Supreme Court about some unoffensive comment. A party who gains presidency and makes a total fool of themselves until they're kicked out by the country. A whole bunch of parties taking sides when there should only be one side: "For The Country". And to top that all up almost half the parties went inactive and now we've got to put together the unmatching pieces. "A party who gains presidency and makes a total fool of themselves until they're kicked out by the country." that was referring to me. Am I mistaken? Did I not gain presidency? I understand that you tried that treaty, but it didn't work so you need to reconfigure it so that it does pass. It is officially a war, but no one is dying because of it at the moment so it isn't really worth calling a war. |
| Date | 06:59:49, May 06, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | Next time try to be more specific, it came right after my post, so the normal thing is to think it was referring to me. But I apologized for the confusion. I just want to tell you that you didn't make a fool of yourself, you just didn't have any luck getting your proposals pass through. I, again, apologize if in any way I have being disrespectful as a consequence of this misunderstanding. I will try another treaty. |
| Date | 07:04:51, May 06, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Advertising Act |
| Message | nah, thats fine. I'm in a zen mood. No sides, no offense taken. Thank you by the way about a new treaty, we might finally get somewhere. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 28 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 122 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Particracy has 464 player slots. |
| Random quote: "Rarely is the question asked: is our children learning?" - George W. Bush |