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Bill: National Spending Elimination Act of 2575
Details
Submitted by[?]: Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2576
Description[?]:
| The Moderate Libertarian Party propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the Democratic Republic of Aloria. |
Proposals
Article 1
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 40,000,000 ALO | 125,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Foreign Affairs | 5,300,000,000 ALO | 5,000,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Internal Affairs | 17,000,000,000 ALO | 125,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Finance | 7,000,000,000 ALO | 175,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Defence | 30,000,000,000 ALO | 14,000,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Justice | 35,000,000,000 ALO | 4,500,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 30,000,000,000 ALO | 7,000,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Health and Social Services | 18,000,000,000 ALO | 35,500,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Education and Culture | 25,000,000,000 ALO | 15,500,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Science and Technology | 4,000,000,000 ALO | 3,500,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Food and Agriculture | 6,500,000,000 ALO | 1,000,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Environment and Tourism | 2,000,000,000 ALO | 2,750,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Trade and Industry | 10,000,000,000 ALO | 1,000,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
| Total | 189,840,000,000 ALO | 90,175,000,000 ALO | 0 ALO |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:39:56, May 12, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | I like the moderate approach of this bill. So consistent with your party name. |
| Date | 21:02:18, May 12, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Alliance | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | And now we watch as society dies |
| Date | 22:51:35, May 12, 2008 CET | From |  Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition) | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | Yes! Well, not society. Just the nation state. As for you DR, your name has always been misleading as well as an oxymoron as far as the nation-state goes. Remember that. |
| Date | 23:13:05, May 12, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | Nonsense. |
| Date | 23:39:06, May 12, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Centrist Party | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | Copied from the Anarchism article on Wikipedia: "Anarchism (from Greek ἀν (without) + ἄρχειν (to rule) + ισμός (from stem -ιζειν), "without archons," "without rulers") is a political philosophy encompassing theories and attitudes which reject compulsory government (the state) and support its elimination" Whose name is misleading? |
| Date | 23:39:38, May 12, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Centrist Party | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | OOC: Those random signs are supposed to be Greek letters. |
| Date | 23:44:09, May 12, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Union | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | Well it's official: The Libertarian Socialists are a comedic party. |
| Date | 01:52:58, May 13, 2008 CET | From | Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition) | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | DCP check the definition of Anarcho Syndicalism. Then, check out Libertarian Socialism. It is not misleading. Also, wikipedia is not a credible source as it can be altered by anyone anytime. As for comedic, PCP, how can conservatives be "progressive" exactly. Talk about misleading. Why not crack a dictionary and see the contradictions between progress and conservation. Idiots. |
| Date | 04:02:51, May 13, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Public Union | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | To be fair. you can conserve the the proccess of progress. |
| Date | 04:03:59, May 13, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Public Union | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | Having to abide by the definations of the terms in the party name is why I first made up my own term (Publitrican) and then came up with a very non-binding to an ideaology name |
| Date | 04:05:42, May 13, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Public Union | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | One more statement. Don't bad mouth Wikipedia. Wikipedia is god. |
| Date | 13:19:29, May 13, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | Libertarian Socialism is a official philosophy, just look up in any encyclopedia you want, the name of the MLP/Libertarian Socialist Party isn't condratictional what so ever! So they have the full right to use the word 'socialist' in their name, it's part of the Libertarian Socialist movement. If we are getting mad about wrongful use of words here, we can be also mad about the fact that the parties in the Progressive Coalition often are called 'liberal' and that the PrCoa is a 'liberal' coalition, while having ultra conservative and religious-moronic parties in it. 'Liberal' comes from 'liberty', freedom for every individual and the right to control their own lives. So regulating parties and anti-abortion and heavily religious parties are called liberal? I think that's also misleading. And on the PCP: the MOST misleading name here in Aloria is the Progressive Conservative Party. While you can play with the meaning of socialism, liberal and libertarian a bit, progressive and conservative is so very contradictious!!! Just like black and white, water and fire, left and right, north and south. |
| Date | 13:20:19, May 13, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | Oh yes, haha I forgot the whole topic! Hmm.. NO to the budget proposal, it's just not rational! It's insane! |
| Date | 13:56:06, May 13, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Public Union | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | "Liberal" can mean alot of things. It used to mean lassiez fare capatalists. Now, liberals in economics favor a much larger role of government; they are progressive. That it why we call ourselves progressive and liberal because we believe in an active role of government in Alorian Life. Only two parties in the coalition are against abortion rights. The case can be made however, that the idea that a life should be protected before it is born is liberal. Its essentially protecting the most inalieanable of rights for the weakest in our society. |
| Date | 20:28:59, May 13, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Union | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | OOC: Well you can be liberal and conservative, you can be black and white (called biracial), you can like red and blue, you can can be like John Kerry: "Now remember, there are two sides to every issue, and I agree with both" - John Kerry |
| Date | 21:27:00, May 13, 2008 CET | From | United Republican Party (FFL) | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | Thus why Kerry is an idiot and goes down as the worst person to run against George W. Bush. If you can make GWB look electable, you have obvious problems. Also this bill is ridiculous. |
| Date | 02:44:00, May 14, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the National Spending Elimination Act of 2575 |
| Message | This thread is full of productive and insightful dialogue. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 109 | ||||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 641 | ||||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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