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Bill: Minimun Working Hours Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: The Liberal Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2576
Description[?]:
| This bill will: 1) Allow the government to establish daily working hours. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards daily working hours.
Old value:: The government has no policy concerning daily working hours.
Current: The government obligates trade unions and employers to negotiate the daily number of working hours.
Proposed: Daily working hours are regulated by the government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:02:44, May 14, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | This appears to be a new option, Am I right? |
| Date | 06:30:30, May 14, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | What defines the need for such a bill? |
| Date | 06:35:41, May 14, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | Employers will then not ask their workers to work 12 or 15 hours a day. They will also have to pay overtime. |
| Date | 07:00:45, May 14, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | only if the regulation number is 13 |
| Date | 07:04:47, May 14, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | We have to go step by step. After we approve this proposal, we can then work on how many hours should a worker work daily without receiving overtime. |
| Date | 07:08:32, May 14, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | Fine with me. |
| Date | 13:44:07, May 14, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | If a worker gets asked to work 12-15 hours a day then the worker can just quit and find a new job. In any market which the need for manpower is greater than the amount avalible no employeer would do this, because it would be just plain stupid |
| Date | 19:36:33, May 14, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | So, you want employees to quit their jobs, their only source of income. Defending big businesses here is not the way to estimulate the economy. |
| Date | 21:23:43, May 14, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | The workers can find themself a new job, thats my point. Our workers are not stupid, they know how to get a job. Also I am defending giving our economy freedom from the government, but I cant deny that stimulating corporations will stimulate our economy since a market economy is driven by the private companies. |
| Date | 21:38:45, May 14, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | Do you know if they will be able to find a new job? In the meantime, how are they going to live? Our workers need protection and this is one of the most important ones. |
| Date | 22:09:25, May 14, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | This is one of the most importent protections for our workers? The most importent thing for our workers is to have a economy with more jobs than manpower, so there is always a job to go too, thats one of the biggest job securities you can get |
| Date | 22:14:03, May 14, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | But it is not possible, unless you live in a perfect world, which we do not. There are more workers than jobs, it is called unemployment. Since we do not have the security you say, this one is the best. Protect workers, not businesses. |
| Date | 23:41:14, May 14, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | Its a very real possiblity, and just because we have a unemplyment does not mean we have more manpower than jobs for every job. There are alot of different jobs there that have a desperate need for labor, and offcourse at the same time there will be some people who will be without a job, but the best way to protect workers is to strenghten the economy, because if the economy isent good then workers really dont have a job security. Workers are protected by businesses in the way that a strong business with a good economy can expand and create jobs, while if the buisnesse are weakened that will affects the jobs the buisness creates, which affects the workers |
| Date | 00:30:10, May 15, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | You are trying to say that workers should not be protected and that if they work 15 hours, they shouldn't be paid overtime. That is simply favoring businesses. Our workers need protection or do you want strikes all over the country (realistically, it may happen). |
| Date | 01:10:29, May 15, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | I think you are focusing this wrong. All workers sign a basic working contract, which outlines job hours and overtime pay. You really think the unions would allow 15 hour work days? Offcourse they wouldnt, they would have gone to strike a long time ago. The market will self regulate itself when it comes to this, on one side is the employeers, on the other side is the unions |
| Date | 07:23:01, May 21, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act |
| Message | Date 21:23:43, May 14, 2008 CET From Lodamun Libertarian Party To Debating the Minimun Working Hours Act Message The workers can find themself a new job, thats my point. Our workers are not stupid, they know how to get a job. Also I am defending giving our economy freedom from the government, but I cant deny that stimulating corporations will stimulate our economy since a market economy is driven by the private companies. What if they're considered stupid? What if they're disabled and haven't got the brain or nerves to quit their job? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 47 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 58 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 45 |
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