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Bill: Justice Reform Bill!
Details
Submitted by[?]: Telamon National Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2578
Description[?]:
| We feel that certain people do not deserve the right to life, and that they will never be safe to put back into the wider community again. Technology now used in investigations is reliable and any miscarriage of justice in such cases will be non-existant. Also it costs the tax payer to keep prisoners locked up, instead they should work for their keep so those who have suffered due to their crimes do not have to pay for their life in prison. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Prison policy concerning prisoner labor.
Old value:: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Current: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Proposed: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:23:03, May 17, 2008 CET | From | Humanic Republicanist Party | To | Debating the Justice Reform Bill! |
| Message | This seems to make sense. The prisoners can work to help pay for the cost of their incarceration. We approve. |
| Date | 21:48:43, May 17, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the Justice Reform Bill! |
| Message | We will not support this legislation. James Lott Chairman Democratic Capitalist Delegation |
| Date | 23:55:22, May 17, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the Justice Reform Bill! |
| Message | We also will not support this legislation. Maria Snowdon Health and Social Services Minister Deputy Party Leader |
| Date | 00:58:01, May 18, 2008 CET | From | Telamon National Party | To | Debating the Justice Reform Bill! |
| Message | Why not? Scared of a bit of justice? Do your parties have something to worry about if these laws are passed? |
| Date | 05:24:30, May 18, 2008 CET | From | Telamon Minarchist Party | To | Debating the Justice Reform Bill! |
| Message | We're giving a reluctant no vote; we would vote for the death penalty if that was brought up as a separate issue however. Lenny Nozick Party Leader Telamon Minarchist Party |
| Date | 23:34:42, May 18, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the Justice Reform Bill! |
| Message | It is a myth that capital punishment is a cheaper alternative; it actually costs more to execute (with legal fees, additional investigations and longer court trials) than to keep prisoners alive for life. Life should never be sacrificed in the name of economics. Maria Snowdon Health and Social Services Minister Deputy Party Leader |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 169 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 236 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 96 |
| Random fact: Players using inactive accounts and/or accounts from outside nations may only propose bills and/or contribute to discussions, whether IC (in-character) or OOC (out-of-character) with the general consent of the players in the nation. |
| Random quote: "A dictatorship is a country where they have taken the politics out of politics." - Sam Himmell |