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Bill: Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rutanian Democratic Forum
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2580
Description[?]:
| This law proposal determines that every religion must register itself, or at least be recognized in society and in the state and provinces, no matter how many members it has. However, all cults, which represent a danger to someone's personal integrity, to the society, or to the constitution and law of the Commonwealth and its Provinces, should be outlawed. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is no official state religion, but the government only allows recognized religions. 'Cults' are persecuted.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:39:07, May 19, 2008 CET | From | The National Party for the People | To | Debating the Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act |
| Message | I agree. |
| Date | 22:04:51, May 19, 2008 CET | From | Imperium Party | To | Debating the Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act |
| Message | Yes the IP agrees. All religions should register to the state for a license. This license will proclaim that the religion can be pracitised in Rutania. Any religions without a license will be arrested. We also agree about the non-practice of cults. |
| Date | 00:18:26, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act |
| Message | You cannot "arrest" a religion, Imperium Party. All what this law wants to say: all religious organizations will be registered, except those cults (since that kind of practice cannot be called religion) which represent a threat to society, state or someone in person. Such cults will be prohibited. |
| Date | 06:50:15, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Commonwealth Party | To | Debating the Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act |
| Message | Can Not support, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all started out as cults...so did many other recognized religions in this world. Who are we to tell what is recognized and what isn't? Big Government is the real threat to Rutanians and the people of the world! |
| Date | 09:36:14, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Federal Rutanian Libertarian Union | To | Debating the Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act |
| Message | How could this be supported by any party? This is a gross abuse of government power and clearly an exhibition of the extremities the RDF is willing to go to curtail the freedoms of the Rutanian people. |
| Date | 11:18:23, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act |
| Message | What about cults that promote suicide? What about cults that promote terrorist attacks? What about cults that basically abduct people? DO they have the possibility to develop in some new Christianity? Don't be redicolous. Such cults present a danger to everyone's liberty and freedom! And RDF cannot possibly understand this: How can prohibition of such cults be a limitation to freedom when this cults themselves present a dagner to freedom?? To your logics, LP, we could not punish someone for abduction of some person, because that would limit his freedom to do "everything what he wants to". ??? |
| Date | 17:36:09, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Commonwealth Party | To | Debating the Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act |
| Message | The law does not say cults that abduct people, rape people or put people in danger...it just says cults. Those kind of cults anyway would be very few in numbers and if they do that kinda stuff then it is already against the law. With the cooperation of the Rutanian people and law enforcements, those types of cults are so close to extinction. |
| Date | 20:10:34, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act |
| Message | We can , however, restrict this law to apply only to that dagnerous cults. I already implied that in the title. Of course, there is no such an option, but among us, we could know it applies only to dangerous cults. |
| Date | 20:30:14, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Imperium Party | To | Debating the Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act |
| Message | Anyone practicising a religion that doesn't have government recoginition should be issued a fine. (To forward our point) |
| Date | 21:08:17, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act |
| Message | We do not want such radical measures, Imperium Party. |
| Date | 21:44:37, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Imperium Party | To | Debating the Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act |
| Message | I would like to say that my right honurable friend would say that it is radical but it is the only way this bill will work the IP believes. |
| Date | 21:50:22, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Imperium Party | To | Debating the Dangerous Cults Prohibition Act |
| Message | I would like to say that my right honurable friend would say that it is radical but it is the only way this bill will work the IP believes. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 179 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 420 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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