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Bill: Regional Nomenclature Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Populist Liberal Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2115
Description[?]:
| Isn't it kind of dull that we call our subdivisions simply "regions?" "Provinces" would be better, but too commonly used for our taste. How about "prefectures?" Let's discuss. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The official title of subnational entities, also known as regions.
Old value:: Region
Current: Province (Region)
Proposed: Prefecture
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:42:45, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | I think it sounds stupid, with all due respect. |
| Date | 15:35:32, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran Imperial Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | Thank god someone agrees with us about how boring the names are. We wil support if the names are "protectorate" instead of prefecture. |
| Date | 16:58:20, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Populist Liberal Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | To the KPP: How about "protectorate" or at least "province?" "Region" is horribly bland. |
| Date | 01:08:14, September 21, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | Do you realize that those words mean something? Protectorate: A relationship of protection and partial control assumed by a superior power over a dependent country or region. --- This obviously does not apply because they are all part of Kanjor. Province: A territory governed as an administrative or political unit of a country or empire. ---This does not apply because it is part of Kanjor again and not an extra piece of territory. Pick something rational if you want my support. |
| Date | 02:13:16, September 21, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran Imperial Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | no fool! (jk) IS CANADA an EMPIRE? No. They have provinces. Protectorate refers to a region which is reliant on the 'protector' (the feds, us) for military protection and foreign policy. A protectorate has a great degree of independence, which i would like all of our regions to have, because they do most government functions on their own. Actually, "Prefecture" is fine, you should sent to vote once you know if the Nationalist Freedom Party supports |
| Date | 03:16:48, September 21, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | Only parts of Canada are provinces and those are the parts where hardly anyone lives. They could very well be provinces by definition and you wouldn't know because you're not Canadian and don't know their government system. I will grant it to you that my reading/interpretation of Province was flawed. Also, if we make them Prefectures we would have to have Prefects by definition, but if ya'll like it I guess it's ok. This isn't really important enough to debate too much. Prefect: A high administrative official or chief officer. Prefects would be chief officers of Kanjor's former regions and (as we are a democracy) elected to their postions by the people much like a governor in the US. |
| Date | 04:21:07, September 21, 2005 CET | From | Populist Liberal Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | Right...the idea is the regions are like American states or Canadian provinces (and Canada's provinces are where people live- Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, British Columbia....) It's their Territories you're thinking about when you say no one lives there (Northwest Territory, Yukon). Our Prefectures would elect Prefects in the same way. Perhaps you were thinking of Kanjor as having no state/province-like entity, but we always have. Note to the NPP: We need either SHP backing or both KPP and NFP, as this is a constitutional amendment and requires a 2/3 vote. |
| Date | 07:07:31, September 21, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran Imperial Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | Oh NO! We never thought about that. I guess that's why they never pass! Oh well. To the KPP: we are proposing "prefectURES," not a prefect. The former is commonly used as an administrative region in places like Japan. |
| Date | 13:39:21, September 21, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | To PLP: Oops, your right. I got confused or my mind trailed off somewhere. To NPP: What? If you are going to have prefectURES they are run by prefects. It's a simple defining term. Kind of like if you wanted to change the country to the "Kanjor Monarchy" it would be run by a monarch. Get it? They go hand in hand. |
| Date | 16:10:43, September 21, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran Imperial Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | Oh sorry, somehow this debate has been marked with lots of confusion... but since there is no governor position, prefect is meaningless, but i guess that's what you said when you first introduced the definition of prefect |
| Date | 20:02:22, September 21, 2005 CET | From | Populist Liberal Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | Well, we'll bring this to a vote. More likely than not it'll fail, but no harm in trying.... Come on! "Regions" is so boring, and we do think of these "regions" as state/province like entities. |
| Date | 00:10:19, September 22, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | If anyone has any reason to oppose this legislation please speak now or forever hold your peace. |
| Date | 01:29:26, September 22, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | I might as well give into one of these crazy name-change proposals. |
| Date | 11:44:20, September 22, 2005 CET | From | Secular Humanist Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | but what's wrong with Region? I don't like prefecture at all as it makes me think to a fascist-like Roman-empire-esque police state. |
| Date | 13:43:33, September 22, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | Actually, he's right. It does sound like he said. |
| Date | 16:20:05, September 22, 2005 CET | From | Populist Liberal Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | Damn. When this fails, will "province" have a chance? "Region" implies that they're just areas with no leaders of their own. |
| Date | 01:08:55, September 23, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Regional Nomenclature Act |
| Message | Province has a chance simply because it sounds better and neutral. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 178 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 262 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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