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Bill: New Telamon Flag Finilization Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Humanic Republicanist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2580
Description[?]:
| The final design has been decided upon and will now be put to vote. A two-thirds majority will be needed to make this the new flag. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The national flag (URL).
Old value:: http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/880/republicoftelamonflagqp7.jpg
Current: https://i.imgur.com/8dt9GFy.png
Proposed: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/clayren/finalfinalflagalreadyyyy.png
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:55:08, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Telamon National Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | We prefer 13. |
| Date | 13:46:33, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | Number 12 is very interesting, we would like to see it. It really has the character of a Coat of Arms. Vojislav Krkljus Chairman of the RRP |
| Date | 15:49:27, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | We also prefer #13. James Lott Chairman Democratic Capitalist Delegation |
| Date | 18:32:19, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | I am sending you our copy of the previous Telamon flag, which will be our structural point: http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/48/telamonflagsq5.jpg RRP |
| Date | 20:22:54, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Humanic Republicanist Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | So far there are 3 votes for number 13 and one for number 12. |
| Date | 20:23:25, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Humanic Republicanist Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | Oops, I mean 2 for 13 and 1 for twelve. |
| Date | 21:41:06, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | My party will agree with #12 if the HRP changes its emblem. Vojislav Krkljus Chairman of the RRP |
| Date | 21:57:14, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Humanic Republicanist Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | This is the HRP's current logo: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4313/sealwu5.gif We would argue that it looks very little like #12. |
| Date | 22:46:29, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Telamon Minarchist Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | I hate penguins. That is all. Leonard Nozick Offering an opinion unrelated to the subject at hand Telamon Minarchist Party |
| Date | 22:56:32, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Humanic Republicanist Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | Very well then. It's a 2 to 2 tie. Unless the Islamic Nationalist Faction steps in and votes, the tie breaker will fall to the HRP. The final decision is still set for the end of the year though, so who knows what will happen. |
| Date | 23:12:33, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Radical Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | We vote for 13. |
| Date | 23:12:45, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | I advise the HRP not to put #12 because it very fairly resembles the logo of the HRP. This will cause an never-before-done conflict of interest. If the Coat of Arms was copied from the flag to the logo of the HRP, that would be fine, but we see otherwise. There will be great problems, the world will hear about this from the north to the south, don't let Telamon be a laughing stock! Vojislav Krkljus Chairman of the RRP |
| Date | 23:19:05, May 20, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | Sorry for these statements, we just got mixed up: ' My party will agree with #12 if the HRP changes its emblem. ' A mistake. We meant #13 will be appropriate if the HRP changes its emblem, because it resembles very fairly #13. And this one: 'I advise the HRP not to put #12 because it very fairly resembles the logo of the HRP. This will cause an never-before-done conflict of interest. If the Coat of Arms was copied from the flag to the logo of the HRP, that would be fine, but we see otherwise. There will be great problems, the world will hear about this from the north to the south, don't let Telamon be a laughing stock!' Again I meant #13. Because it resembles the HRP emblem/logo. We are currently for #12 because it is our second choice to #13 on which we will not agree until the HRP changes its emblem. Sorry for the mix-up. Djurdjevdan is coming and I had to prepare. Vojislav Krkljus Chairman of the RRP |
| Date | 00:08:17, May 21, 2008 CET | From | Humanic Republicanist Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | Okay, so now it is 3 to 1 in favor of number 13. |
| Date | 11:08:00, May 21, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | I advise the HRP not to put #13 because it very fairly resembles the logo of the HRP. This will cause an never-before-done conflict of interest. If the Coat of Arms was copied from the flag to the logo of the HRP, that would be fine, but we see otherwise. There will be great problems, the world will hear about this from the north to the south, don't let Telamon be a laughing stock! Vojislav Krkljus Chairman of the RRP |
| Date | 05:00:54, May 22, 2008 CET | From | Humanic Republicanist Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | The vote has been finalized! The final tally is 3 to 1 in favor of adopting the thirteenth sample for the flags emblem. The colors from the old Telamon flag have been imposed onto the image, and the final test design is ready: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/clayren/finalfinalflagalreadyyyy.png We shall put this design up for vote now. Thank you all for voicing your opinion. |
| Date | 23:54:51, May 22, 2008 CET | From | Humanic Republicanist Party | To | Debating the New Telamon Flag Finilization Act |
| Message | Only need 24 more votes to get 2/3. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 310 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 95 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 96 |
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