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Bill: Constitutional Amendment

Details

Submitted by[?]: Rutanian Democratic Forum

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2581

Description[?]:

To better stress the federal position of our provinces in the commonwealth.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:59:12, May 21, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Party
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessageI just like the word congress better than parliament....

Date23:04:27, May 21, 2008 CET
FromRutanian Democratic Forum
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessageOOC: more american? :)

RP: Congress represents more "federal" name, so to say. RDF likes the word congress more, or considers it more appropriate to our federal- confederal- commonwealth political system in Rutania. Although we do not have congressional (presidential) system.

Date23:05:18, May 21, 2008 CET
FromRutanian Democratic Forum
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessageWhat does Liberal Party think about this? This is one opportunity for all of us to unite in voting for this law.

Date00:00:40, May 22, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Party
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessageCongress does actually fit more to the whole Commonwealth government, parliament has a more monarchist feel to it for some odd reason.

Date03:47:29, May 22, 2008 CET
FromFederal Rutanian Libertarian Union
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessageOOC: Well, I don't know - I live in Australia, a federal nation (not to mention that it's called the Commonwealth of Australia), and we have a "Federal Parliament" see; Congress sounds no more nor less Federal to me.

IC: We suppose we can be convinced into supporting.

Date19:42:14, May 22, 2008 CET
FromRutanian Democratic Forum
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessageThe motivation is eventually to give something "rutanian", original, to our institutions' names. Currently, our names are generic: President, Prime Minister, Parliament. Maybe we should choose something more "ours"...

Date22:52:12, May 22, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Party
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessageRutanian Congressional Assembly
Rutanian Council
Assembly of the Rutanian People

Those are just a few from the top of my head. the first choice seems nice in my opinion. Not unless everybody wants to go with the "Assembly of Pimps, Hoes, and Gangstas"...and just be the first government to tell everybody the truth about politics because thats what they elect. Just jokin(I joke a lot)...

Date23:21:30, May 22, 2008 CET
FromImperium Party
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessageHaving a President and Parliament do not fit so we have to change the name of one of em, maybe change President to Lord Protector of Rutunia, while we keep the same Parliament and HoG.

Date23:22:36, May 22, 2008 CET
FromImperium Party
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessagePlus the IP are in big favour to change the name of President, because having both a President and Primeminister doesn't make sense.

Date00:35:04, May 23, 2008 CET
FromRutanian Democratic Forum
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessageWell, we don't change our political system here. Lord Protector belongs to monarchy or to some dictatorship. President presides the country, he or she is a supreme commander of armed forces, he represents the state in international relations, and oversee the functioning of the government. The Prime Minister presides the country government and leads the executive politics (combined with legislative initiative). So simple as that.

We propose something as:
Congress of the Commonwealth

+ maybe Chancellor or something for the Prime Minister...

Date17:17:34, May 23, 2008 CET
FromRutania Shaor
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessageRutania Shaor do not feel official titles should be changed for the sake of it. It makes perfect sense to have both a President and a Prime Minister.

As for the proposal in hand, whereas we could be convinced in the future that Congress might be a more suitable title than Parliament for our glorious legislative assembly, there must surely be more relevant concerns in modern Rutania. For that reason alone, for now we will vote against this change.

Date18:28:51, May 23, 2008 CET
FromThe National Party for the People
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessageWe say change Prime Minister. We like congress.

Date18:50:40, May 23, 2008 CET
FromRutanian Democratic Forum
ToDebating the Constitutional Amendment
MessageCongratulations, we now have Congress of Rutania in Rutania! :-)

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