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Bill: Gimme That Old Time Religion Bill of 2580
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2581
Description[?]:
| Gimme that old time religion Gimme that old time religion Gimme that old time religion It's good enough for me! If it's good enough for Noah If it's good enough for Noah If it's good enough for Noah It's good enough for me! (repeat through assorted Old Testament prophets) |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: Religious doctrine determines the death penalty.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: The government requires foreign missionaries to register with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Current: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Proposed: Foreign missionaries are welcomed and encouraged by the government.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state has the right to veto the appointment of any ministers of religion.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Current: No religions are taxed.
Proposed: Religious taxation policy is left to the local governments.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: People are required to dress according to religious codes
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Current: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religions shall be regulated by the law, but shall be borne by the religious communities themselves.
Proposed: The remuneration of ministers of religion shall be left up to the local governments.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:19:33, May 23, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the Gimme That Old Time Religion Bill of 2580 |
| Message | "The time is NOW to end the persecution of Alorians of faith! Let us RESTORE the values of old Aloria. Let us HEAL this sick old nation!" --Elijah Delray, DR MP from Ultran on submission of this bill. |
| Date | 19:31:14, May 23, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Public Union | To | Debating the Gimme That Old Time Religion Bill of 2580 |
| Message | Vote yes, but if it passes (unliely) expect a referendum on articles 1 and 5. |
| Date | 20:06:48, May 23, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Alliance | To | Debating the Gimme That Old Time Religion Bill of 2580 |
| Message | "This is nothing but religious dictatorship, I hate religion and everything it stands for and if it were not for this party's membership of teh Progressive Coalition i would introduce measure to ban it!" Thomas Fenwick Alliance Leader |
| Date | 20:26:04, May 23, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the Gimme That Old Time Religion Bill of 2580 |
| Message | Bog, shall ye smite these Malevolent Minions of Zog? Shall ye call down the cleansing flames of heaven upon their heads that Aloria may again be free? Or shall the lamb lay down for the lion? I offer myself for thy sacrifice, sweet Bog, that this nation may once again walk the walk of the faithful! Bog, make THY will known! --Elijah Delray |
| Date | 21:04:16, May 23, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Alliance | To | Debating the Gimme That Old Time Religion Bill of 2580 |
| Message | "Religion is the opiate of the people" - Karl Marx What about the Church of Fridgey (Aloria's Second Largest religion)? What are you going to do with them? |
| Date | 23:13:39, May 23, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Public Union | To | Debating the Gimme That Old Time Religion Bill of 2580 |
| Message | The Church of Fridgey is a fringe Cult. Alorians are Bogists. |
| Date | 23:25:39, May 23, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Centrist Party | To | Debating the Gimme That Old Time Religion Bill of 2580 |
| Message | Not all. |
| Date | 23:34:43, May 23, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Centrist Party | To | Debating the Gimme That Old Time Religion Bill of 2580 |
| Message | Assuming that all Alorians are religious is ignorant. This is not improving the religious freedom of Aloria, infact, it decreases it. |
| Date | 02:28:59, May 24, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the Gimme That Old Time Religion Bill of 2580 |
| Message | Bringing back the freedom of Bogist Alorians to worship in the manner they see fit does not decrease religious freedom! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 232 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 384 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 134 |
| Random fact: Any RP law granting extraordinary "emergency powers" or dictator-like powers to a government must be passed by at least a 2/3rds majority, but (like all RP laws) may always be overturned by a simple majority vote of the legislature. |
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