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Bill: Ratification of the Telamon/Endralon Northern Alliance Agreement
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Capitalist Delegation
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2583
Description[?]:
| Should Telamon vote to adopt this treaty, it is only under the condition of the subsequently titled Bill of Amendments. BILL OF AMENDMENTS: 1) Article IX concerning extradition and its clause which mentions use of the death penalty shall be nullified. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Telamon/Endralon Northern Alliance Agreement.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:02:41, May 24, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the Ratification of the Telamon/Endralon Northern Alliance Agreement |
| Message | We would like to discuss the ratification of this alliance and search for a way to make its acceptance possible. James Lott Chairman Democratic Capitalist Delegation |
| Date | 03:46:41, May 25, 2008 CET | From | Humanic Republicanist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Telamon/Endralon Northern Alliance Agreement |
| Message | The HRP will vote for this bill if the following things are added: 1. If the parliament has a 2/3 majority vote to do something that would break the treaty, the treaty is considered dissolved and no penalties are enforced. This allows changing governments to not be bound by old alliances. 2. Remove anything to do with extradition requiring us to remove the death penalty. They are criminals against our country, and are subject to our laws no matter what. Their moral judgment has no place in our justice system 3. Border control should be the same for everyone, no matter where they're from. |
| Date | 06:43:30, May 25, 2008 CET | From |  New Liberal Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Ratification of the Telamon/Endralon Northern Alliance Agreement |
| Message | If there is asuch a change in the make-up of parliament, that 2/3 would be willing to do something against it, then they can always withdraw from the treaty first. We are willing to give up the extradition clause, but not the movement of people between Endralon and Telamon. The free movement of people is one of the cornerstones of the treaty. John Stuart Menzies First Minster of The Republic of Endralon |
| Date | 14:55:55, May 25, 2008 CET | From | Humanic Republicanist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Telamon/Endralon Northern Alliance Agreement |
| Message | Very well, if the extradition clause is dropped, we will vote in favor of this bill. |
| Date | 21:48:54, May 25, 2008 CET | From | Rightful Radical Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Telamon/Endralon Northern Alliance Agreement |
| Message | We will vote against this bill. Vojislav Krkljus Chairman of the RRP |
| Date | 23:25:55, May 26, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the Ratification of the Telamon/Endralon Northern Alliance Agreement |
| Message | I will add an article into this bill which declares that as far as Telamon is concerned, the extradition clause is null and void. Kirk Morrison Foreign Affairs Democratic Capitalist Delegation |
| Date | 23:34:29, May 26, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Capitalist Delegation | To | Debating the Ratification of the Telamon/Endralon Northern Alliance Agreement |
| Message | I would like to hear particularly which clauses the RRP or the CPotS take issue with. Kirk Morrison Foreign Affairs Democratic Capitalist Delegation |
| Date | 16:32:54, May 27, 2008 CET | From | Telamon National Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Telamon/Endralon Northern Alliance Agreement |
| Message | Article VIII Citizens of Telamon and Endralon should be allowed to move easily between the two nations. Border checks for any citizen of one nation attempting to enter the other should not be overly invasive or subject such citizens to the same scrutiny as those hailing from hostile nations We can not agree with this and will be voting against, we need to be able to secure our borders at any time we need and not be hampered by treaties. |
| Date | 15:20:26, May 31, 2008 CET | From | New Liberal Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Ratification of the Telamon/Endralon Northern Alliance Agreement |
| Message | We understand the need for stringent security checks and border control, and accept the TNP's fears. But we ask them to note that the clause says OVERLY invasive, meaning that there is still room for sufficient security checks, and it would be expected that people would move between our two nations through official avenues. There are two reasons we want freer movement of people between Endralon and Telamon. Firstly, we expect it to foster mutual understanding one anothers cultures, which will bring us closer and give us a basis for mutual dependence in economic and strategic matters. Secondly, both our economies will benefit from having professionals, entrepenuers and even unskilled workers having a chance to achieve their aspirations in one another's countries, or even set up businesses in both. The sky is the limit. In peace and freedom, John Stuart Menzies First Minster of The Republic of Endralon |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 292 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 113 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 96 |
| Random fact: Periodically, it is a good idea to go through your nation's Treaties and arrange to withdraw from any that are unwanted. |
| Random quote: "Depressions and mass unemployment are not caused by the free market but by government interference in the economy." - Ludwig von Mises |