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Bill: Formal Union of the Imperial Lines

Details

Submitted by^[?]: Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2588

Description^[?]:

Okay so this is what we've settled on for the Union of the the Luthori, Hulstrian, and Aldurian Monarchies:

An Heir to the Hulstrian Throne will marry An Heiress to the Aldurian Throne, and thus their heir will be able to claim both the Hulstrian and Aldurian thrones as well as a uniting the claim on the Luthori Throne. The couple will have 4 children, all males. The eldest will become the senior line and inheirate the titles Emperor of Alduria, Hulstria, and Luthor, and some form of unifying title like Terran Emperor. Each of the three remaining sons will inheirate one of the 3 empires as a lesser status, ex, the Hulstrian heir will become Archduke of Hulstria.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	16:43:35, June 05, 2008 CET
From	Traditional Conservative's Party
To	Debating the Formal Union of the Imperial Lines
Message	Okay...sounds good to me.

Date	00:50:24, June 06, 2008 CET
From	Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten
To	Debating the Formal Union of the Imperial Lines
Message	I don't like the idea of a "Terran Emperor".

Date	01:27:57, June 06, 2008 CET
From	Progressive Liberal Party of Hulstria
To	Debating the Formal Union of the Imperial Lines
Message	We are glad with this proposal, we are proud to see our emperor as emperor of a greater nation.

Date	21:27:02, June 06, 2008 CET
From	Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei
To	Debating the Formal Union of the Imperial Lines
Message	Oh and just for reference, I think we settled on the name Charles for the first "Terran Emperor." The name works in English, French, and German, and it references Charles V and his massive empire.

Date	22:36:25, June 06, 2008 CET
From	Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten
To	Debating the Formal Union of the Imperial Lines
Message	I still really, really dislike the idea of a Terran Emperor. I think the title should be kept to "His Illustrious and Imperial Majesty the Emperor of Hulstria, and of Alduria, and of Luthor, etc." or something of that general nature.

Date	23:25:54, June 06, 2008 CET
From	Progressive Liberal Party of Hulstria
To	Debating the Formal Union of the Imperial Lines
Message	We agree with the HNP on this matter.

Date	00:19:28, June 07, 2008 CET
From	Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei
To	Debating the Formal Union of the Imperial Lines
Message	Well concern besides the HNP's should have been voiced prior so I didn't put it to a failing vote.

Date	02:36:09, June 07, 2008 CET
From	Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten
To	Debating the Formal Union of the Imperial Lines
Message	The HNP also believes that the system of "regents" should be scrapped. If the separate monarchies want to institute varying systems for how their own monarchy works, then fine. But in Hulstria, the HNP wants only one Kaiser and the Kaiser's elected representative (if that system continues).

Date	03:44:06, June 07, 2008 CET
From	Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei
To	Debating the Formal Union of the Imperial Lines
Message	So the HNP would then prefer that we go back to the previous idea of rotating the Kaiser every generation?

Date	12:49:38, June 07, 2008 CET
From	Progressive Liberal Party of Hulstria
To	Debating the Formal Union of the Imperial Lines
Message	How are we sure our nations will not be torn in a civil war when the current emperor dies and the children all want to be the "Terran" emperor?

Date	02:07:30, June 08, 2008 CET
From	Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei
To	Debating the Formal Union of the Imperial Lines
Message	Because the Terran Emperor would have children of his own...

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Voting

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Seats

yes

Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei (59)

Total Seats: 59

Progressive Liberal Party of Hulstria (138)
Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten (92)
Traditional Conservative's Party (71)
Conservative Alliance Party (40)

Total Seats: 341

abstain

Total Seats: 100

Random fact: Information about the population of each country can be found on the Population Information thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8663

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