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Bill: Tobacco sales
Details
Submitted by[?]: Pariah Idealism
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2588
Description[?]:
| I hope you agree that it's useless to have the rule that citizens (of all ages as it doesn't state age) can put anything into their bodies. However our current rule is that only adults may buy tobacco. Either we change this rule or tighten up drug regulation. As I don't want to do that I'm proposing this first, but if it's not passed then I have no option but to tighten drug regulations. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Sale of tobacco products.
Old value:: Only adults may purchase tobacco.
Current: There are certain restrictions on the sale of tobacco and only adults may purchase tobacco.
Proposed: There are certain restrictions on the sale of tobacco products but everyone is allowed to buy them.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:09:28, June 05, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Tobacco sales |
| Message | Again, kids should not be allowed to buy tobacco. |
| Date | 00:19:26, June 06, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Tobacco sales |
| Message | I am a bit confused about the argument in the bill description, You are gonna thighen drug control if you cant pass a bill to lossen it up a little? But anyway the government should not empose any laws on what a citizen can put into there body, the citizen must take the choice and responsibility for what happens themself |
| Date | 00:25:09, June 06, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Tobacco sales |
| Message | How can you say that kids are responsible for their actions? A 6 years old cannot possibly know the consequences of smoking tobacco and take responsability for it. Your love for small government clearly puts in danger our citizens, especially little kids. |
| Date | 02:40:18, June 06, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Tobacco sales |
| Message | A 6 year old cannot possibly think "Oh, let's go buy cigarettes and smoke them." The farthest it would ever go is the kid find a cigarette asks what it is and gets an answer. They wouldn't know to smoke it or to light it. LLP: That's exactly what I mean. Our laws should match. Otherwise, people get confused. |
| Date | 03:01:07, June 06, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Tobacco sales |
| Message | Trust me, they think about "let's buy a cigarette" if family members smoke. Legally, we cannot let them smoke. |
| Date | 03:17:34, June 06, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Tobacco sales |
| Message | No they wonder what its like, and parents who want to let them try it will do so. Otherwise not. If they let them do so, 6 years don't think "This is so cool I'll do it even though I hate the taste, smell, feel, etc." |
| Date | 12:06:40, June 06, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Tobacco sales |
| Message | And its the parent job to raise the children, not the governments job. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 83 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 46 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 21 |
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