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Bill: Police and other public officials
Details
Submitted by[?]: Pariah Idealism
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2588
Description[?]:
Public officials should not be allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 14:15:16, June 05, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Police and other public officials |
Message | Religious discrimination |
Date | 17:50:21, June 05, 2008 CET | From | Anarchist Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the Police and other public officials |
Message | yeah, I must say it is discrimination. as long as they don't enforce it upon others, everyone's free to be religious. |
Date | 19:10:47, June 05, 2008 CET | From | Free Leftist Party | To | Debating the Police and other public officials |
Message | I agree, this goes against freedom of religion. |
Date | 22:07:54, June 05, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Police and other public officials |
Message | We support. Separation of State and Church should be preserved at all times. Religion must not interfere with their work. Since there is not guarantee of that, we should have this. |
Date | 00:25:37, June 06, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Police and other public officials |
Message | I support the seperation of state and church in the way that we should never have a state religion. Other than that we should not favorize atheism over does who belive that a god or several gods exists since in my opinion atheism is a kind of religion too, since there is no certain answer to the question if a god or several gods exist, so both sides does who belive in a god and does who dont take a belive in what they think is right on the question, but no one can know if they are right or not. We should not favorize eather side, and we should not ban clothes soly on religious grounds, thats only discriminating |
Date | 00:27:35, June 06, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Police and other public officials |
Message | State is state, religion is religion. When you are doing your job (for the government), religion must be set aside. |
Date | 03:13:59, June 06, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Police and other public officials |
Message | We are not banning the clothes. Banning means you are not allowed to where them. We are saying that as a public official you should not have anything that could intimidate certain religions. Let face it, we have a lot of VERY religion people in Lodamun. Some of those are very open about their opinion. Public officials should not have the possibility to confuse state and religion. |
Date | 11:57:48, June 06, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Police and other public officials |
Message | The state should never impose any laws based on religion, and it should never ban people from wearing religious symbols. |
Date | 22:50:02, June 06, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Police and other public officials |
Message | This only bans public officials, not everyone. |
Date | 01:10:54, June 07, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Police and other public officials |
Message | But it bans some people, and that too much. A government should never ban anyone from wearing religious symbols, jobs shouldnt matter. |
Date | 01:36:57, June 07, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Police and other public officials |
Message | If they want to work for the government, they have to abide by its rules. It is the same as businesses. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 56 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 73 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 21 |
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