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Bill: Declaration of War on Zardugal
Details
Submitted by[?]: Al'Badaran Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2588
Description[?]:
To assist the Saiserist League.
Authorizing the deployment of 1 million active duty soldiers. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:58:13, June 06, 2008 CET |
From | Republican Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the Declaration of War on Zardugal | | Message | OOC: You were on the anarchist's side before they began the genocide, then on my side, and now considering going back
It's perfectly reasonable that a right-wing party would not support the comintern in a war. We wouldn't support monarchists either, or the AAT. |
| Date | 02:02:52, June 06, 2008 CET |
From | Al'Badaran Socialist Party | To | Debating the Declaration of War on Zardugal | | Message | OOC: What made me on his side? Just because he voted for many of my bills? The genocide began almost the same time I moved here.
I know it's perfectly reasonable doesn't mean I can't hope to change your mind somehow.. Also, I said "may" have to. I haven't changed my votes on any relevant bills yet. |
| Date | 11:21:44, June 06, 2008 CET |
From |  Saiserist League | To | Debating the Declaration of War on Zardugal | | Message | Perhaps we should clarify ourselves. Our war, in this war at least, is not for establishing a collectivist autocracy. We would like to set that up, but that is not our goal here. Our goal is to dissolve and destroy a party, the Federal Republican Party, who is systematically laying waste to Zardugal itself, including rabid persecution of their political opponents. They brutalized peaceful marchers, predominantly Saiserist, when he effectively spit on the graves of the Zardugalis who died in Hutori to sell them out to the AAT. They then brought in troops from Barmenistan for the sole purpose of suppressing Saiserists and our allies before we had taken any action against them or even planned on taking any such action. We fight our war to destroy this party, and then resume the democratic process that we admittedly despise.
We beg, and plead for your help in this endeavor. This is not a Communist war. This is a war to restore the sanity of Zardugal, and bring a halt to Axis imperialism.
~message from Saiser Mstislav |
| Date | 12:53:31, June 06, 2008 CET |
From | Republican Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the Declaration of War on Zardugal | | Message | Looking into the matter I have found the Saiserist league to be brutal and totalitarian, an enemy of democracy, capitalism and free thought. We cannot, will not, support any action supporting this party.
Looking into the matter is seems the Saiserists have brought this conflict upon themselves and instigated it, as the FRP it seems is innocent of the charges brought against it, more a product of Saiserist paranoia. |
| Date | 13:06:59, June 06, 2008 CET |
From | Saiserist League | To | Debating the Declaration of War on Zardugal | | Message | Looking into who? We have done nothing, except react to them. They have brutalized our citizens, and sent in foreign troops exclusively to be used against us, and then tried to disavow their intention when we called them on it. Political opposition to our agenda is fine, but this seems more like blatant Red-baiting then a genuine overview of what has caused this war. The FRP is not only a duplicitous egomaniacal party, they are a party that stains Terra, with their blithe assumption that they are the elected dictators of Zardugal. |
| Date | 13:08:58, June 06, 2008 CET |
From | Saiserist League | To | Debating the Declaration of War on Zardugal | | Message | OOC: Wait a second, the RPC is a member of the Fascist Nationalist Alliance and the problem with us is we're brutal and totalitarian? |
| Date | 00:12:09, June 07, 2008 CET |
From | Republican Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the Declaration of War on Zardugal | | Message | OOC: We are? Oops, that shouldn't have happened, I'll fix that
and sent in foreign troops exclusively to be used against us: No they havn't, that was another party
Saiserists: We disagree completely, and would turn most of those comments back on you. The SL is not only a duplicitous egomaniacal party, they are a party that stains Terra, with their blithe assumption that they are the elected dictators of Zardugal. |
| Date | 21:45:56, June 07, 2008 CET |
From | Al'Badaran Socialist Party | To | Debating the Declaration of War on Zardugal | | Message | "To assist the Saiserist League."
We're not going to war with them. We're going to war with the rest of the country. Or at least some of the other parties.
Anyway, this won't pass and won't count if it does because of empty cabinet positions. |
| Date | 07:53:22, June 08, 2008 CET |
From | Saiserist League | To | Debating the Declaration of War on Zardugal | | Message | As absolutely correct as we must admit the RPC's comments to be, again we must plead with Al'Badara to see the rightness of our cause. |
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| Vote |
Seats |
| yes | Total Seats: 64 |
| no | Total Seats: 455 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 196 |
| Random fact: Particracy has been running since 2005. Dorvik was Particracy's first nation, the Dorvik Social Democrats the first party and the International Greens the first Party Organisation. |
| Random quote: "What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?" - Mahatma Gandhi. |