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Bill: Save Our Whales Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Human Extinction Project
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2588
Description[?]:
| Whales have a degree of intelligence close to that of our own, and yet we are hunting them - even though they are an endangered species. This is ecological terrorism of the worst kind. Professor Horace Werckle (Director of the Human Extinction Project) |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on whaling.
Old value:: Commercial whaling is legal, but the government establishes whaling quotas.
Current: Commercial whaling is legal, but the government establishes whaling quotas.
Proposed: Whaling is illegal.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:03:50, June 07, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Save Our Whales Act |
| Message | If they are endangered, they are prohibited from being hunted. If they are not endangered, there is no reason not to hunt them. We hunt various other intelligent animals freely, simply because we need to eat. |
| Date | 10:42:23, June 07, 2008 CET | From | Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Save Our Whales Act |
| Message | "If they are endangered, they are prohibited from being hunted." Wrong. If the law says commercial whaling is legal, then it's legal. If whales are endangered (which without doubt several whales are) we've got two contradicting laws: Once says that endangered species cannot be hunted, and another one that says commercial whaling is allowed. There is no hierarchy in these laws. Do they mean: "You cannot hunt endangered species except for whales, there commercial whalling is legal", or "We theoretically would allow hunting whales but not in practice since they're endangered"?? |
| Date | 15:17:31, June 07, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Save Our Whales Act |
| Message | If only we had a Supreme Court, to which we could appeal for clarification on such issues. For our part, the two laws are not contradictory. Let us say we had particular species of whale that was endangered. Under the current law, it would be legal to hunt that whale insofar as it is a whale, but it would be illegal to hunt it insofar as it is endangered. On the whole, a hunter of that whale species would be prosecuted under the endangered animals prohibition. Should the proposed law pass, it would be illegal to hunt that whale insofar as it is a whale, and insofar as it is endangered, ie, it would be illegal for two different reasons under two different laws. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 215 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 285 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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