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Bill: Homosexuals in the Military
Details
Submitted by[?]: Telamon National Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2116
Description[?]:
| Open homosexuality will cause problems in the army we dont want to be wating time and money on making sure homosexuals feel comfortable. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:09:46, September 22, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Homosexuals in the Military |
| Message | Then why should we waste time and money on making heterosexuals feel better? There is no reason that a person's sexual orientation should affect their standing in the military, or anywhere else. If they are a good soldier and a good leader, then they should hold a position of authority. There are rules against fraternization, so troops should not feel uncomfortable about being approached by members of their unit. I don't forsee any other problems. |
| Date | 03:27:57, September 23, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Homosexuals in the Military |
| Message | Well think about it If your in the army and you have shower with an openly gay person, then you would fell unsettled But if you dont know the guys gay, then soldiers wont be worrying about getting ass raped in the showers because as far as they know, theres no gays Also on the field, i would be worried about getting patched up by a homo, cos who knows what he would do to me in my sleep |
| Date | 19:26:20, September 24, 2005 CET | From |  Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Homosexuals in the Military |
| Message | Ok, now that really is homophobic. Just because a guy is gay doesnt mean he is going to rape you in your sleep. You need to grow up child. |
| Date | 06:03:40, September 25, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Homosexuals in the Military |
| Message | as far as i know, it does, in prisons 1 in every 4 men gets raped! So from what i know, i wouldnt want to be sleeping near a gay dude |
| Date | 15:51:30, September 25, 2005 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Homosexuals in the Military |
| Message | Im sorry, but how does not knowing whether someone is gay or not reduce the likelihood of you being raped. Don't be so ridiculous and homophobic! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 91 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 161 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 3 |
| Random fact: "Treaty-locking", or ratifiying treaties that completely or nearly completely forbid any proposals to change laws, is not allowed. Amongst other possible sanctions, Moderation reserves the discretion to delete treaties and/or subject parties to a seat reset if this is necessary in order to reverse a treaty-lock situation. |
| Random quote: "The great masses of the people... will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one." - Adolf Hitler |