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Bill: ASP Infrastructure Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Al'Badaran Socialist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2589
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Eminent Domain.
Old value:: The government may seize private property for vital government works.
Current: The government may seize private property for vital government works.
Proposed: The government may seize private property for any reason.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Eminent domain compensation (if eminent domain is legal).
Old value:: A neutral body appointed by the courts determines the compensation, either party may appeal.
Current: The government determines compensation for victims of eminent domain; victims can sue if they deem it unfair.
Proposed: The government determines compensation for victims of eminent domain.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Firefighting services.
Old value:: Fire prevention and management is left to the local governments.
Current: There is a national fire department, funded by the government.
Proposed: There is a national fire department, funded by the government.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on nuclear power.
Old value:: The government encourages nuclear power (subsidies, tax relief etc).
Current: The government encourages nuclear power (subsidies, tax relief etc).
Proposed: The government requires most energy to be generated by nuclear power.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the post office
Old value:: There is a nationalised post office. Private post office agencies are allowed to exist, and the services provided by them are not regulated.
Current: There is a nationalised post office agency. Private post offices are allowed to exist but the services provided by them are regulated.
Proposed: There is a nationalised post office agency in the nation. Private ones are banned.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 02:07:19, June 09, 2008 CET | From | Enlightened Cosmic Brotherhood | To | Debating the ASP Infrastructure Bill |
Message | We do not like Nuclear Power. We shall support this bill for the other points it raises, but the power issue shall come up again. |
Date | 02:36:21, June 09, 2008 CET | From | Al'Badaran Socialist Party | To | Debating the ASP Infrastructure Bill |
Message | What is wrong with nuclear power? |
Date | 02:51:07, June 09, 2008 CET | From | Enlightened Cosmic Brotherhood | To | Debating the ASP Infrastructure Bill |
Message | The inherent danger argument is often brought up and often shot down so we shall refrain from using it to much. However, despite whatever advancements in safety measures there are there is always the danger of a complete meltdown and destruction. Say what you wish about the Holy Knights but we fully respect and revere this great planet that Allah has given to us and shall take upon ourselves the role of enviornmental protectors. Nuclear power is clean in its burning but not its disposal. Depleted uranium makes fine nuclear weapons and tank shells but these still pollute and should be avoided. There is also the problem of disposing of this uranium in non-weaponized fashions. It remains radioactive and dangerous to the children of Allah for many years, as well as having the possibility to contaminate water and agriculture (the dangerous Tomacco plants of 2235) Finally, the radioactive materials needed for such power are quite limited, even more so then oil and coal. We would much prefer to invest our funds into solar and wind energies, which are very possible in our year of 2588. Al'Badara is made up of mostly sand and desert after all, I doubt anyone will object to large scale solar panels and windmills in the most unforgiving of landscapes Al'Badara has to offer. |
Date | 02:51:26, June 09, 2008 CET | From | Enlightened Cosmic Brotherhood | To | Debating the ASP Infrastructure Bill |
Message | (OOC: See? We aren't totally crazy) |
Date | 11:35:40, June 09, 2008 CET | From | Republican Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the ASP Infrastructure Bill |
Message | Ok here goes: Nuclear power is far superior environmentally to fossil fuels and renewable power. It has no carbon emissions like the former and does not destroy habitats for the latter. By your own reasoning you should support nuclear. Disposal of nuclear products is clean and safe. They cause no pollution what so ever. We don't simply throw Uranium into the revers or sea! We do as all nations do, place in lead containers (which radiation cannot escape from) and either in specialised vaults or at the bottom of the sea, where they cannot harm anything. They will loose their radioactivity before the lead can even hope to be penetrated. Solar and wind power costs far more to set up and maintain, and harms the environment. Uranium, quite apart from what you say, is plentiful. |
Date | 20:32:10, June 09, 2008 CET | From | Enlightened Cosmic Brotherhood | To | Debating the ASP Infrastructure Bill |
Message | Not as plentiful as you think, it is still a finate resource. Now is the time we should be investing our massive fossil fuel profits into domestic clean energy such as solar and wind power. The costs are more, but the safety concerns are next to nil and the opportunities for state employment setting up and mantaining these suppliers are much higher then nuclear power. The concept of Peak Uranium exists, and we must dig for uranium, thus hurting the environment. There is no such thing as Peak Wind or Peak Sun without the world ending. |
Date | 21:38:49, June 09, 2008 CET | From | Republican Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the ASP Infrastructure Bill |
Message | Digging for Uranium can have near to no effect on the environment. Damning up a river or beach, or setting up turbines all over hills does. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 519 | ||||
no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 196 |
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