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Bill: ASP Infrastructure Bill

Details

Submitted by[?]: Al'Badaran Socialist Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2589

Description[?]:

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Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date02:07:19, June 09, 2008 CET
FromEnlightened Cosmic Brotherhood
ToDebating the ASP Infrastructure Bill
MessageWe do not like Nuclear Power. We shall support this bill for the other points it raises, but the power issue shall come up again.

Date02:36:21, June 09, 2008 CET
FromAl'Badaran Socialist Party
ToDebating the ASP Infrastructure Bill
MessageWhat is wrong with nuclear power?

Date02:51:07, June 09, 2008 CET
FromEnlightened Cosmic Brotherhood
ToDebating the ASP Infrastructure Bill
MessageThe inherent danger argument is often brought up and often shot down so we shall refrain from using it to much. However, despite whatever advancements in safety measures there are there is always the danger of a complete meltdown and destruction. Say what you wish about the Holy Knights but we fully respect and revere this great planet that Allah has given to us and shall take upon ourselves the role of enviornmental protectors.

Nuclear power is clean in its burning but not its disposal. Depleted uranium makes fine nuclear weapons and tank shells but these still pollute and should be avoided.

There is also the problem of disposing of this uranium in non-weaponized fashions. It remains radioactive and dangerous to the children of Allah for many years, as well as having the possibility to contaminate water and agriculture (the dangerous Tomacco plants of 2235)

Finally, the radioactive materials needed for such power are quite limited, even more so then oil and coal. We would much prefer to invest our funds into solar and wind energies, which are very possible in our year of 2588. Al'Badara is made up of mostly sand and desert after all, I doubt anyone will object to large scale solar panels and windmills in the most unforgiving of landscapes Al'Badara has to offer.

Date02:51:26, June 09, 2008 CET
FromEnlightened Cosmic Brotherhood
ToDebating the ASP Infrastructure Bill
Message(OOC: See? We aren't totally crazy)

Date11:35:40, June 09, 2008 CET
FromRepublican Patriciate Coalition
ToDebating the ASP Infrastructure Bill
MessageOk here goes:
Nuclear power is far superior environmentally to fossil fuels and renewable power. It has no carbon emissions like the former and does not destroy habitats for the latter. By your own reasoning you should support nuclear.

Disposal of nuclear products is clean and safe. They cause no pollution what so ever.

We don't simply throw Uranium into the revers or sea! We do as all nations do, place in lead containers (which radiation cannot escape from) and either in specialised vaults or at the bottom of the sea, where they cannot harm anything. They will loose their radioactivity before the lead can even hope to be penetrated.

Solar and wind power costs far more to set up and maintain, and harms the environment. Uranium, quite apart from what you say, is plentiful.

Date20:32:10, June 09, 2008 CET
FromEnlightened Cosmic Brotherhood
ToDebating the ASP Infrastructure Bill
MessageNot as plentiful as you think, it is still a finate resource. Now is the time we should be investing our massive fossil fuel profits into domestic clean energy such as solar and wind power. The costs are more, but the safety concerns are next to nil and the opportunities for state employment setting up and mantaining these suppliers are much higher then nuclear power.

The concept of Peak Uranium exists, and we must dig for uranium, thus hurting the environment. There is no such thing as Peak Wind or Peak Sun without the world ending.

Date21:38:49, June 09, 2008 CET
FromRepublican Patriciate Coalition
ToDebating the ASP Infrastructure Bill
MessageDigging for Uranium can have near to no effect on the environment. Damning up a river or beach, or setting up turbines all over hills does.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 519

no
  

Total Seats: 0

abstain
  

Total Seats: 196


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