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Bill: Civil service

Details

Submitted by[?]: Progressive Liberal Party of Hulstria

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 2589

Description[?]:

Sometimes civil service is more needed then military service.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date01:04:17, June 09, 2008 CET
FromKonstitutionelle Monarchie Partei
ToDebating the Civil service
MessageWho protects a country more? A strong, united national military? Or a bunch of hicks with toy guns pretending to part of a civilian national service somewhere in the woods? Hmmm, I'd think I'd go with the first one choice.

Date01:29:01, June 09, 2008 CET
FromWiedervereinigten Nationalisten
ToDebating the Civil service
MessageThe HNP has far more respect for the Hulstrian people than the FAP. We support this initiative.

Date01:35:30, June 09, 2008 CET
FromWiedervereinigten Nationalisten
ToDebating the Civil service
MessageOOC: I also think you're confused about what civilian national service is. It's not a militia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Youth_Service

Date01:43:09, June 09, 2008 CET
FromKonstitutionelle Monarchie Partei
ToDebating the Civil service
MessageThat only makes my disapproval of this bill stronger. A strong national military can fight, civilian national service can only make brownies. The current policy makes true patriots and futures for Hulstrians, not sissy environmentalists, concerned with the bottom of society other than the greater good.

Date02:00:06, June 09, 2008 CET
FromWiedervereinigten Nationalisten
ToDebating the Civil service
MessageAlthough the HNP is, and always has been, an ardent advocate of a strong national military, we disagree with the FAP's stated position on this matter. We believe that civilian national services should be made available because they are a good alternative for young Hulstrians who do not wish to join the military. We believe that civilian national services will lessen the burden of the government to care for our society's underprivileged and will likely aid in the social mobility of poorer Hulstrians.

We would also point out the conflicting positions of the FAP. In a seprate bill (the "Moral Act"), your party espoused a policy of actively removing homosexuals from the national military. However, in this bill, your party is declaring that all Hulstrians should be required to join the military. The HNP is confused on which position the FAP supports.

Date02:14:58, June 09, 2008 CET
FromWiedervereinigten Nationalisten
ToDebating the Civil service
MessageOr, sorry, it was Article 3 of the "Reforming Public Service Act".

Date02:25:03, June 09, 2008 CET
FromKonstitutionelle Monarchie Partei
ToDebating the Civil service
MessageWe support normal, straight Hulstrians joining the military and thankfully, I believe, there is a vast majority of them.

Date11:13:05, June 09, 2008 CET
FromProgressive Liberal Party of Hulstria
ToDebating the Civil service
MessageThe idea of the bill is explained very nice by HNP, thanks!

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 230

no
    

Total Seats: 170

abstain
  

Total Seats: 100


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