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Bill: Freedom and Ecology - Hand in Hand
Details
Submitted by[?]: Republican Party of Lodamun
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2591
Description[?]:
| A free market solution for the Ecology of our nation, is the only solution. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning forest protection.
Old value:: Forests are protected. Logging is allowed by licence only.
Current: Forests have strictly enforced protection. Felling is limited to fire breaks.
Proposed: Forest protection is left to local governments.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy regarding a national park system.
Old value:: The government funds and maintains a network of national parks and/or marine protected areas.
Current: The government funds and maintains a network of national parks and/or marine protected areas.
Proposed: The government devolves park policy to local governments.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government regulation of pollution in industry.
Old value:: The government enforces highly restrictive industrial pollution standards.
Current: The government enforces highly restrictive industrial pollution standards.
Proposed: Industrial pollution is not regulated by the government.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government-sponsored recycling programs.
Old value:: The government funds recycling facilities and enforces mandatory recycling for residents, commercial enterprise, and industry.
Current: The government funds recycling facilities and enforces mandatory recycling for residents, commercial enterprise, and industry.
Proposed: There is no national policy regarding recycled garbage.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:05:52, June 12, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Freedom and Ecology - Hand in Hand |
| Message | We completely oppose. Favoring big businesses instead of our precious environment, typical conservatism. |
| Date | 02:09:42, June 12, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Freedom and Ecology - Hand in Hand |
| Message | conservatism is wanting the government to leave us alone, not wanting the government to favor big businesses |
| Date | 02:11:37, June 12, 2008 CET | From | Republican Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the Freedom and Ecology - Hand in Hand |
| Message | Yeah, typical conservatism to believe in the growth, free market and privatization. Most of the national policy regarding recycled garbage are privatized in real countries. They are profitable and therefore government does not need to spend. Industrial pollution has nothing to do with the government. And you or any other "typical socialist" should decide that average Joe's tax money is going to telling some business they can't grow. It's simply flat out wrong. The other proposals is just about the freedom for the local governments as they know best under the circumstances of the situation. Practically what LP says is that: I should decide if a patient get's that care. I don't know the circumstances but I certainly know I don't like that treatment. Giving power to the local governments is important, as they know the circumstances in a much greater scale than the ones in the sentral government. |
| Date | 02:17:30, June 12, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Freedom and Ecology - Hand in Hand |
| Message | It would be strange for conservatist to want the government to favor businesses since they dont want the government involved at all |
| Date | 02:25:18, June 12, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Freedom and Ecology - Hand in Hand |
| Message | I think you misundertood, I favor federalism. Almost all of the current laws that give power to local governments were proposed by me. But there are some things that should not be given to local governments such as national parks and forest protection. As for industry pollution, you are favoring big business because you are letting them just throw all the waste to our environment. |
| Date | 02:36:15, June 12, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Freedom and Ecology - Hand in Hand |
| Message | Well I am just saying that favoring big businesses is not something I promotes because it involves the government. |
| Date | 02:37:13, June 12, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Freedom and Ecology - Hand in Hand |
| Message | By not promoting governement intervention, you are favoring big businesses. |
| Date | 11:50:13, June 12, 2008 CET | From | Republican Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the Freedom and Ecology - Hand in Hand |
| Message | By promoting liberty towards economic growth we're promoting big business. Consumers do alot to privatized industry. As they don't buy product which havn't been made in one way or the other. Consumers have alot of power towards this. If the government would leave out of it, and try funding science instead. We would have a big leap towards that industry can become less pollutant. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 40 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 88 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 22 |
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