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Bill: Trigunia in Dovani
Details
Submitted by[?]: Folks Revolusjonær Kommunistiske Parti
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2594
Description[?]:
Trigunia owns the eastern-most part of Northern Dovani, or they claim they do. (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8164/newtrigunianx4.png) Recently though, Trigunia has been moving closer and closer towards a civil war. The newly installed Tsar has refused any new cabinets (OOC: Only the HoS can propose a cabinet, and the tsar is hereditary, so no one can propose one) and the opposition cut all funding into every single sector, and drastically raised taxes. (http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/budget.php?nationid=31) Should we liberate their colony from this rule? What do the parties think? Trigunia would be unable to do anything about it, and we would be honouring "Dovani for Dovanians". |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 06:16:39, June 19, 2008 CET | From | (NWO) Saiserist Förening | To | Debating the Trigunia in Dovani |
Message | "We must peacefully liberate the area. Slay them all." ~Grand Commander Timiryazev |
Date | 16:21:16, June 19, 2008 CET | From | Konservativ Monarkistpartiet | To | Debating the Trigunia in Dovani |
Message | Push forward until we hit the ocean. |
Date | 17:45:27, June 19, 2008 CET | From | East Trigunia Company | To | Debating the Trigunia in Dovani |
Message | "The citizens of the area are quite content as they are thank you. No action is needed." George Stammer, A Sekowan Member of the New Adelian Diet. |
Date | 18:52:55, June 19, 2008 CET | From | Folks Revolusjonær Kommunistiske Parti | To | Debating the Trigunia in Dovani |
Message | I doubt they're content considering they are receiving no money for healthcare, education, maintenance of infrastructure, etc. |
Date | 19:33:38, June 19, 2008 CET | From | East Trigunia Company | To | Debating the Trigunia in Dovani |
Message | New Adelia is now under the control of the Vascanian Government. Which I assure you, does have proper funding. We urge you not to invade against the will of the people. You are a people's party after all. |
Date | 19:36:09, June 19, 2008 CET | From | Folks Revolusjonær Kommunistiske Parti | To | Debating the Trigunia in Dovani |
Message | Indeed, and we must protect the people from oppressionist regimes who would jump to war at any given moment. |
Date | 19:49:32, June 19, 2008 CET | From | (NWO) Saiserist Förening | To | Debating the Trigunia in Dovani |
Message | "We don't care about New Adelia. We do care about the poor oppressed peoples of the northeastern four colonies... Arctusk I believe the area is called, or something to that effect. They have suffered for far too long, and with Trigunia apparently moving towards internal implosion, financial and political, it is our humanitarian duty to relieve Trigunia from the stresses of maintaining the Arctusk colonies." ~Grand Commander Timiryazev |
Date | 20:17:06, June 19, 2008 CET | From | East Trigunia Company | To | Debating the Trigunia in Dovani |
Message | Harry I. Waffles, an internationally recognised monarch is Kniaz of Arkutsk, and therefore it is his territory. We would support Kazulian intervention and protection if you recognised Harry as the Kniaz. We'd even surrender the government to you, as you're right it does need proper government. |
Date | 20:18:53, June 19, 2008 CET | From | Folks Revolusjonær Kommunistiske Parti | To | Debating the Trigunia in Dovani |
Message | The only way we can effectively help the people there is by incorporating it in the Kazulian Northern Colonial Area. Furthermore, our nation is the founder of an anti-monarchist treaty, so we can not have a hereditary monarchy in one of our colonial areas. |
Date | 20:36:15, June 19, 2008 CET | From | (NWO) Saiserist Förening | To | Debating the Trigunia in Dovani |
Message | "Why can't we recognize Gospodin Waffles as the Kniaz? It seems perfectly reasonable, and will seem even more reasonable as soon as it is under absolute Kazulian military control. You can trust the Saiserist Forening. Would we lie to you?" ~Grand Commander Timiryazev |
Date | 20:55:52, June 19, 2008 CET | From | Folks Revolusjonær Kommunistiske Parti | To | Debating the Trigunia in Dovani |
Message | After serious internal talks, we have come to the conclusion that Harry will be allowed to remain Kniaz of Arkutsk. Thereby accepting Trigunia's terms. |
Date | 21:02:19, June 19, 2008 CET | From | (NWO) Saiserist Förening | To | Debating the Trigunia in Dovani |
Message | "In all seriousness, in the interest of preventing armed conflict that will be of no benefit to either side, we are prepared to allow Gospodin Waffles to remain Kniaz and nominal Head of State of Arkutsk. It is more sensible than coming to bloodshed over such a trivial issue." ~Grand Commander Timiryazev |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||||
yes |
Total Seats: 440 | ||||||
no | Total Seats: 60 | ||||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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