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Bill: Income tax proposal of August 2594
Details
Submitted by[?]: Her Majesty's Loyal Trade Unionists
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change income taxes. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2595
Description[?]:
| As a first move towards introducing a tax system in Luthori which is fairer on the poorest whilst raising the extra tax revenues needed to fund vital social and infrastructure projects, I commend this budget to the Diet. Arthur Smith (General Secretary of Her Majesty's Loyal Trade Unionists) |
Proposals
Article 1
We propose to alter income tax brackets to the following setup. Information about the current income tax system can be found here.
| Bracket | Tax | Estimated Revenue |
| > 5,000 LPD | 20% | 31,066,000,000 LPD |
| > 10,000 LPD | 40% | 36,880,000,000 LPD | Total | 67,946,000,000 LPD |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:29:42, June 20, 2008 CET | From | Citizen's League | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 2594 |
| Message | This is a completely stupid idea. This budget will take money away from the hardest working Luthori citizens. Everyone deserves to pay the same tax. |
| Date | 21:29:31, June 20, 2008 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 2594 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Is this character seriously suggesting a 100% tax hike for most workers and a 300% tax mugging of two working parent families? I hope he brought his mask and a couple of pistols with him! |
| Date | 00:44:47, June 21, 2008 CET | From | Her Majesty's Loyal Trade Unionists | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 2594 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The effect of this proposal will be to raise overall income tax revenues by about 30% in order to fund the increases in education and health spending that are desperately needed in this country. We will achieve this by asking those who are able to pay more to pay more, whilst at the same time reducing the tax burden on the poorest families. This budget is fair and reasonable to everybody. It deserves to be passed. Arthur Smith (General Secretary of Her Majesty's Loyal Trade Unionists) |
| Date | 01:00:03, June 21, 2008 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 2594 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Lies! This doesn't reduce the tax burden on anyone! |
| Date | 02:56:23, June 21, 2008 CET | From | Citizen's League | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 2594 |
| Message | Asking someone to give up just under half their income to the government is ridiculous, and it will not stand. May I also remind you that no education or health reforms are needed. Luthori is adequate as is. |
| Date | 14:25:03, June 21, 2008 CET | From | Her Majesty's Loyal Trade Unionists | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 2594 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The spokesman for the Covenanters is factually wrong to suggest my proposed budget will not reduce the tax burden on anyone. For instance, if he cares to look at the income statistics for the region of Utagia (see http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewregion.php?regionid=61) he will observe that the lowest income-earners there earn 3640 LPD per annum. Under the current taxation system, those people will be taxed 364 LPD per year, but under our tax proposal that person they will not be asked to pay a penny. In fact, under my proposal everybody earning under 10,000 LPD will pay less tax than they do already under. People earning exactly 10,000 LPD a year will be unaffected by my proposal, being taxed 1000 LPD (10% of their income) under both my proposal and the existing taxation system. As a person's income rises above 10,000 LPD, my taxation proposal begins to become more progressive in asking people to pay more than they do already. Let's take a person earning 15,000 LPD a year, for example (you will notice not a single person in Utagia earns this much in a year, but some of the other regions seem to have more high-earners). Under the current taxation system, he will pay 1500 LPD a year in tax (10% of his income) whilst my taxation proposal would require him to pay 3000 LPD a year (20% of his income). Like all budgets, this budget has winners and losers, but this one gives a foot up for the poor instead of another extra boon for the rich. In the long-run this budget will benefit everybody by helping to build a more equal, more cohesive society that can sustain decent public services. Arthur Smith (General Secretary of Her Majesty's Loyal Trade Unionists) |
| Date | 14:37:43, June 21, 2008 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 2594 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Nonsense! Coercing half a family's income is nothing more than legalised gangsterism! |
| Date | 20:22:46, June 21, 2008 CET | From | Her Majesty's Loyal Trade Unionists | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 2594 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, My tax proposal will not require *anybody* to pay anywhere near half of their income in tax. According to the statistics, the highest income-earner in all of Luthori lives in the region of Yodukan and earns 30,090 LDP a year. Under my reform, this person will pay 8036 LPD in tax, which is still only 26.7% of his income. Arthur Smith (General Secretary of Her Majesty's Loyal Trade Unionists) |
| Date | 21:36:54, June 21, 2008 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 2594 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, At least Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask, and call himself a highwayman! |
| Date | 21:56:47, June 21, 2008 CET | From | Her Majesty's Loyal Trade Unionists | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 2594 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The real highwaymen are those who have run this nation for so long whilst letting the rich steal more and more of our national wealth! Arthur Smith (General Secretary of Her Majesty's Loyal Trade Unionists) |
| Date | 22:50:36, June 21, 2008 CET | From | Citizen's League | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 2594 |
| Message | The rich do not steal money at all! They are hard working Luthoris who earn their money, just like everyone else! |
| Date | 00:23:12, June 22, 2008 CET | From | Her Majesty's Loyal Trade Unionists | To | Debating the Income tax proposal of August 2594 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, People who live off the interest they earn on hefty bank accounts and hefty investment portfolios are not the hardest-working people in the land. Arthur Smith (General Secretary of Her Majesty's Loyal Trade Unionists) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 5 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 155 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 15 |
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