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Bill: Civil Servants Reform Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partiya Natsional'noy Gordyy
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2116
Description[?]:
| We believe we have to reduce corruption and political appointments. The public service will become more reliable. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Appointments and requirements for government employees.
Old value:: Government employees are selected and appointed in a political way.
Current: Government employees are selected and appointed in a political way.
Proposed: All government employees have to promise political independence.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:49:14, September 25, 2005 CET | From |  Partiya Natsional'noy Gordyy | To | Debating the Civil Servants Reform Bill |
| Message | We tried to have this bill passed last year. We hope to archieve a majority this time.http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=19560 |
| Date | 17:28:14, September 25, 2005 CET | From | Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Civil Servants Reform Bill |
| Message | We vote against, we would support in principle but RL experience has shown this is impossible and that even if enforced, the parties in power appoint 'special advisors' *cough* Labour Party in Britain *cough* As to this from the SLP "So Capitalist Party and RPC you favour corruption, a lot of bureaucracy and bureaucrats and an ineffective, expensive and unreliable public service ? What will the taxpayer thing ? You can still change your vote of course...." Corruption? If employees are kicked out when there party loses power then they cant be there forever like supposedly independent civil servants are. Are you trying to tell me that you would be able to be independent when working with a party who's views you completely oppose, such as perhaps the RCP or a communist Party? I thought not. What justification can you possibly give that i am voting for bureaucracy and an ineffective public service, come to think of it, what public services, we dont provide that many |
| Date | 18:15:11, September 25, 2005 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Civil Servants Reform Bill |
| Message | While we agree that there is a certain level of corruption and political partisanship in the civil service which is unavoidable regardless of policy, it is hard to see that by making it legally ok to deliberately stock the civil service with political cronies you reduce those problems. OOC: Look at Tony Blair's integrity, the last thing Britain needs is for the law to tell him that he's supposed to stock every level of the civil service with his dodgy mates. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 105 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 450 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Parties have the ability to endorse another party's candidate for the Head of State election (if there is one). This adds a strategic element to the elections. |
| Random quote: "The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum. Whenever evil wins, it is only by default: by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles." - Ayn Rand |