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Bill: Marriage Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Telemon Lutheran Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2118
Description[?]:
| Ok ok, I have changed my mind, as much as I want equal rights for everyone and stuff, I cant back same sex marriage. Im sorry, but as a religous person, I do not feel its right, and I know that we dont want to mix religion with the government, but we live in a society filled with morals and old values, and Im not ready to give them up and allow same sex couples to marry. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy toward marriage.
Old value:: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Current: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Proposed: The government only recognises civil marriages between a man and a woman.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:06:46, September 25, 2005 CET | From | Telemon Lutheran Party | To | Debating the Marriage Reform |
| Message | Its natural between a man and a woman, not a man and a man or a woman and a woman. |
| Date | 19:17:15, September 25, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Marriage Reform |
| Message | That's debatable... As a religious person, I do not feel that it is right to force my beliefs upon any other person, and thus cannot support this. |
| Date | 02:48:34, September 26, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Marriage Reform |
| Message | I support the Lutheran Party! |
| Date | 06:09:15, September 26, 2005 CET | From | Telemon Lutheran Party | To | Debating the Marriage Reform |
| Message | Im not forcing my beliefs onto anyone, but to face the facts, not everyone in society is religious but most believe that a marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman. |
| Date | 17:06:53, September 26, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Marriage Reform |
| Message | That isn't true, at least in Canada, in fact, a vast majority wanted to legalize gay marraige with a VERY vocal minority wanting it to remain illegal |
| Date | 19:37:41, September 26, 2005 CET | From | Telemon Lutheran Party | To | Debating the Marriage Reform |
| Message | Um maybe in Canada, but unfortunatly, not everyone is that accepting of Gay marriage in other parts of the world like in Australia, for instance, a few years ago in Sydney, the gay rights parada thingy went ahead, and lots of people were attacked after wards.. So im saying, people can go to more accepting places, marry, have the documents, and then return here. I know that sounds confusing, but it does make sense. |
| Date | 00:53:46, September 29, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Marriage Reform |
| Message | *sighs* |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 97 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 158 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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