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Bill: Military Segregation (2599)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Normand Pluralist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2600
Description[?]:
| We propose that women serve in separate units than men to increase military morale and propriety. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women serve alongside men.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women serve in segregated units.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:06:16, June 30, 2008 CET | From |  Conservative Party | To | Debating the Military Segregation (2599) |
| Message | Interesting proposal. However, how does segregated units increase morale? |
| Date | 07:13:09, June 30, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Military Segregation (2599) |
| Message | We are against sexism. |
| Date | 07:18:00, June 30, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Independent Party | To | Debating the Military Segregation (2599) |
| Message | We will have to agree with the DSP on this bill. Seperating men and women instantly gives all sexists an excuse to continue gender discrimination. Also, this bill would make it difficult to place hermaphrodites in the military... We prefer that military does not base it's individual soldiers' abilities based in any way, shape, or form upon gender. We are against. |
| Date | 07:43:44, June 30, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Military Segregation (2599) |
| Message | Okay, what about the argument that generally, women perform physical tasks a bit less than men and in certain areas women perform tasks stronger than men. Would it not be optimal for our forces to focus natural abilities? SIP, you do make a point on hermaphrodites. But this is also a small portion of the forces. Our military should not be built around a small group of people. OOC: Lastly, going back to my first point, it is also these physical limitations that discourages sexes from taking up roles they are not good at. There aren't any woman in my infantry unit. But a lot of them are in the offices and do a better job than the men. However, due to 'sexism', woman have easier tests and lower minimums in most physical exercises. And they are assigned the same tasks. I don't know. Somehow, the military world has balanced itself out on its own without too much trouble. Could be the best strategy for Sekowo too. |
| Date | 08:36:25, June 30, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Military Segregation (2599) |
| Message | Segregation increases morale by reducing the discomfort that often occurs when men or women are forced to live with the opposite gender among a rather crude population. |
| Date | 08:45:07, June 30, 2008 CET | From | Anti-Federalists of Free Sekowo | To | Debating the Military Segregation (2599) |
| Message | We agree with the NPP. |
| Date | 18:29:01, June 30, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the Military Segregation (2599) |
| Message | OOC: There have been studies on the only military in the world to have mixed combat units (Israel) that actualy show it might be better to keep them apart. When a male soldier sees a female soldier get shot, it tends to increase the chance that the male soldier will "lose it" and shoot civilians and other such things. However, seeing as our units are already mixed, I see no sense in breaking them up again. |
| Date | 18:30:13, June 30, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the Military Segregation (2599) |
| Message | OOC: Also anyone ever see startship troopers. Both genders useing the same public shower in the military :D) |
| Date | 06:01:49, July 01, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Military Segregation (2599) |
| Message | OOC: =D Ja. That was a messed up movie. Funny though. |
| Date | 06:47:52, July 01, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Military Segregation (2599) |
| Message | Oh, for the record, this isn't sexist. In fact, it's less sexist than forcing women to serve with men. |
| Date | 06:48:11, July 01, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Military Segregation (2599) |
| Message | [[DSP, do you consider having separate women's restrooms sexist?]] |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 228 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 300 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 72 |
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