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Bill: Amendments
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2603
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: Senate Warden
Current: Governor
Proposed: Vice President
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Supreme President
Current: President
Proposed: President
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The official title of subnational entities, also known as regions.
Old value:: State
Current: States
Proposed: Region
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:40:56, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | This legislation is insulting to the Federal Republic. We do not look upon parties highly that have no basis for attempting to eradicate Solentia's rich history and traditional titles. FIP Minority Leader Leonard Bacik |
| Date | 18:41:39, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | It is not up to yourselcves |
| Date | 18:48:01, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | It is most certainly not your ability to waltz into the Senate and simply attempt to change the titles. You cannot expect to garner the support of the veteran parties through actions such as these. What is your argument for changing our current titles, which have been in use for centuries? FIP Minority Leader Leonard Bacik |
| Date | 18:51:28, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | A change is as good as a rest. Also I ain't waltzing anywhere, Iam putting my opinion to the senate and if they wish to accept, then great, if not then I tried. It most certainly isn't your place to waltz into the senate and say we don't like this its insulting as if I should say oh ok then dude and remove it, who do you think you are?A bully? A bitch? An autocratic person? |
| Date | 19:02:16, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | The Senate will not accept this waste of time. Your inability to show respect for something that many of us value as the greatest symbols of this nation is disgraceful. I am no bully, but you are most certainly inept in the ways of both oratory and grammar. Competence is lacking as well. You cannot expect me to respect someone as rash as you in both your speech and reaction. "A bitch"? That is entirely inappropriate speech for the Senate. FIP Minority Leader Leonard Bacik |
| Date | 19:07:39, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | I speak english in little, so please don't mock grammar and speech! You still force your opinion on us, I will not bow down to your pressures and also you are a bully you are nasty and force your opinion on is and think your important. |
| Date | 19:14:35, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | We have a basic policy of respect for others and their opinions, but it is based off of reason. This bill has both no argument to it and little reasoning. Why change what we have? Change for the sake of change? That is the most faulty and illogical argument a man could ever conceive. I am not nasty, I am no bully, I am simply speaking for the entire elected Senate except for perhaps one party. If you were to provide a real argument for this bill, I would have little problem with it. However, your legislators have not done so, they have ignored time for debate, and have carelessly entered into this issue without any backing. FIP Minority Leader Leonard Bacik |
| Date | 19:29:57, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | We don't like how you feel this, but its a decision of your making. |
| Date | 22:35:59, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | "Change for the sake of change?" OOC: This is my trademark complaint, >=| |
| Date | 04:09:56, July 07, 2008 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | As long as the Solentian Heritage Coalition exists, this foul tripe of an excuse for legislation shall never pass. As our beloved statesman Harold Belisarious once said once many decades ago to the Federal Republican Party regime, "Not now, not ever!" |
| Date | 05:26:38, July 07, 2008 CET | From | National Zeus Party | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | **shakes head** Once again the SHC attacks. |
| Date | 23:43:23, July 07, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | SHC? |
| Date | 03:15:15, July 08, 2008 CET | From | National Zeus Party | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/vieworganization.php?organizationid=1496 The Solentian Heritage Coalition. they basically are against anything that could be considered change, as far as symbols and historical type stuff. |
| Date | 15:30:05, July 08, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Amendments |
| Message | The Solentian Heritage Coalition stands only against change that would be detrimental to the preservation of Solentia's rich culture. We are perfectly willing to compromise on reasonable bills, and have done nothing but better Solentia during our existence. Baltazar Harrison, CSPS Senate Speaker |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 425 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Whilst the use of non-English languages can be appropriate for nation names, party names, constitutional titles and other variables, English is the official language of communication in the game. All descriptive texts and public communications should be in English or at least appear alongside a full English translation. |
| Random quote: "The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them." - Mark Twain |