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Bill: Foriegn Affairs Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Citizen's Communist Council
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2604
Description[?]:
Sekowo's foreign policy is archaic, Terra is one world and must act as such. The constructs of borders and nationality serve no other purpose than to divide us. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Travel by nationals to foreign nations
Old value:: The nation issues passports to nationals after a cursory security check.
Current: The nation issues passports to nationals after a cursory security check.
Proposed: The nation issues passports on demand for any reason to its nationals
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning immigration.
Old value:: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Current: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Proposed: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Travel by foreigners to the nation.
Old value:: The nation imposes minimal border controls on visitors, with cursory security checks, to confirm visitor identities.
Current: The nation imposes strict border control on visitors, with intensive security checks, to maintain law and order.
Proposed: The nation imposes no border controls on visitors.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 21:42:54, July 09, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Foriegn Affairs Reform |
Message | We are against. Article. 1; Certain persons (and this is in very extreme cases) should not be permitted to leave the country, like say a corrupt official carrying top secret documents. Article 2; Simply put there are some people we just don't want living here. However as we don't believe in highly limiting immigration it's better to allow people to freely immigrate, but do checks on them to prevent the 1% or less we don't want from coming here. Article 3; We need to know who is coming in and out of our nation to prevent terrorism and know who committed a crime or, in the case of their death who they were. |
Date | 01:39:43, July 10, 2008 CET | From | Citizen's Communist Council | To | Debating the Foriegn Affairs Reform |
Message | Article 1: Then your problem is with the government and not with the issuance of passports. Dissolving the government would solve your problem. ;-) In addition to that, just because an individual holds a passport does not mean they are able to leave the country. There are such things as red sheets. Article 2: People you don't want? Your xenophobia is sickening. Article 3: Who is to define what a terrorist is? Your version of a terrorist could be nothing more than another persons version of a patriot. "Crime" is nothing more than a construct based on societal norms, and just because a person deems something to be outside of a societal norm, does not make it inherently wrong. |
Date | 03:54:20, July 10, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Foriegn Affairs Reform |
Message | We are'nt xenophobic, we simply don't want someone who has a history of say blowing things up,, and who perhaps hates us from coming here. Our definition of terrorism is someone who purposefully kills people. |
Date | 06:51:22, July 10, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Independent Party | To | Debating the Foriegn Affairs Reform |
Message | We find the LSC's vision of reality fairly lacking. Anyone who believes crime is a construct of social norms has obviously never been held at gunpoint for their wallet, or watched a violent beating, or seen people die due to illegal actions...the list goes on. Crime is not a "construct", crime is an action which breaks a law. Why do we make laws? To protect Sekowo citizens, and ensure that all are granted equal treatment so they can pursue freely happiness and prosperity. Were the rest of Terra ready to act like "one world" we would gladly agree to this bill. However, as Sekowo is and has been the target of military aggression, we find it absolutely irresponsible to cease all security measures involving our borders. |
Date | 02:07:51, July 11, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Foriegn Affairs Reform |
Message | We would like to say that we agree with both the LSC and SIP on the idea of crime. It is in our opinion that a great many crimes (IE getting arrested for having drugs) and other victim less crimes are crimes that are social constructs and not really crimes naturally, however there are things that are not constructs, such as murder or rape, both of which are wrong on a natural level. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||||
yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
no |
Total Seats: 600 | ||||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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