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Bill: Retirement Age Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: The Green Manalishi Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2605
Description[?]:
| Healthcare is improving; people can live and work longer but 75 is still a barbaric retirement age at present. We seek to repay a generation of taxpayers not by working them into the ground, but rewarding them in their latter years. We propose 68, but are open to hearing other suggestions. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 75
Current: 65
Proposed: 68
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:17:12, July 10, 2008 CET | From | Enlightened Cosmic Brotherhood | To | Debating the Retirement Age Act |
| Message | 68 is a rather odd age in that it may as well be 80. We personally would prefer 65, but this seems to be an acceptable middle ground. |
| Date | 00:17:26, July 10, 2008 CET | From | Enlightened Cosmic Brotherhood | To | Debating the Retirement Age Act |
| Message | *may as well be 70* |
| Date | 00:24:09, July 10, 2008 CET | From | The Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Retirement Age Act |
| Message | We feel that the ECB has taken a flippant attitude to a serious economic and social matter. In those terms, 68 is a big difference compared to 70. |
| Date | 00:34:27, July 10, 2008 CET | From | Enlightened Cosmic Brotherhood | To | Debating the Retirement Age Act |
| Message | The ECB does not pride itself in matters of numerically measuring citizen's lives. Two years may be a large economic difference, but to tell a person they must work 3 more years after reaching 65, especially if they have health issues, is an even larger problem. Health advances and a (once) well funded public health care system have allowed our citizens to live longer. But we should allow citizens to retire at 65, a reasonable and normal age. They may still work as long as they wish, but 65 sounds much better and is much easier in terms of health issues then 68. |
| Date | 01:20:29, July 10, 2008 CET | From | Republican Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the Retirement Age Act |
| Message | We would agree it should be dropped to 65, our country is not rich and the age expectancy is not high. At the age of 65 only a few would have ten years left. |
| Date | 04:03:12, July 10, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Retirement Age Act |
| Message | Our party's position now as it was before when a similar bill was proposed is that the retirement age should never be lowered, it should only be raised as life expectancy increases continually. |
| Date | 12:04:56, July 10, 2008 CET | From | The Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Retirement Age Act |
| Message | ECB: we're not 'telling a person they must work 3 more years...', we're saying they can work 8 less! the idea that 65 is a 'normal age' and 'sounds much better' is a political non-starter. CP: We also feel that the retirement age should be gradually raised, but from a realistic starting point. However this nation came to agree on 75 when the life expectancy here is less than many of the other nations in Terra is a mystery. |
| Date | 23:42:45, July 11, 2008 CET | From | Republican Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the Retirement Age Act |
| Message | Presently our life expectancy is somewhere around 70, maybe lower. As is the retirement age leaves maybe 1-2% with a retirement at all. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 319 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 220 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 176 |
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