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Bill: Right To Bear Arms Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Berosian Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2607
Description[?]:
The citizens of a country have every right to protect themselves, their families, and their rights using firearms. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Weapon concealment.
Old value:: Where weapons are carried, this must be done openly.
Current: Any legal weapon may be concealed when carried.
Proposed: People must first obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Individuals are not permitted to own firearms under any circumstances.
Current: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Proposed: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 00:17:38, July 17, 2008 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Right To Bear Arms Act |
Message | "The citizens of a country have every right to protect themselves..." No. No they don't. And that's what you are trying to change. We'll not indulge your willynilly politicking that has no regard for tradition or consequence. |
Date | 05:05:42, July 17, 2008 CET | From | Berosian Party | To | Debating the Right To Bear Arms Act |
Message | So, our citizens have no right to protect themselves when jumped by a criminal on the streets, or when a criminal bursts into their homes, brandishing a knife, or worse, a gun, or when a criminal decides to go on a shooting frenzy, and no one has a gun, or even a knife to stop him or her, because he or she has already shot and killed those with weapons due to the fact they were completely visible? Criminals do not obey the law. They find weapons illegally and conceal them illegally. If criminals have all the guns (and they do-our police force can only carry non-lethal weapons), then they have all the power. I am shocked that so many powers are showing so much disrespect for our citizens, and supporting a law that helps criminals more than anything. |
Date | 06:36:48, July 17, 2008 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Right To Bear Arms Act |
Message | The opening gambit of this bill was "The citizens of a country have every right to protect themselves". That's simply not true - they do not have that right. That's the law. As for the subject of how crime differs in gun-equipped and gun-absent societies.... The Berosian Party talk a good game, but it's simply not reflected in reality. In societies that are heavily regulated to stop gun usage, what actually happens is an overall reduction of fatal crime. Sure, there is still SOME gun crime, but it's a fraction of gun crime proportional to gun-positive cultures. And, again, sure there is more NON-gun crime, but that non-gun crime is far less often fatal, and has less collateral damage. Overall - gun-absent societies are much safer than gun-positive societies. Also - we feel amazed we have to point this out - just because our police force doesn't carry LETHAL weapons, doesn't mean they are unarmed. It is entirely possible to have non-lethal weaponry that is more effective at control than lethal wepaons might be. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
no | Total Seats: 75 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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