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Bill: Purification Act IV
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Party of Solentia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2609
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Racial segregation of public amenities (eg. drinking fountains, public toilets)
Old value:: Segregation of any public amenity is banned.
Current: Segregation of any public amenity is banned.
Proposed: All public amenities are segregated.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:20:40, July 19, 2008 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | This goes against our policy of racial equality for all Solentian Born. Nay. |
| Date | 21:52:18, July 19, 2008 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | The SDP will not abandon its proud tradition of working to eradicate segregation. |
| Date | 22:05:13, July 19, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | "Would you have our children using the same drinking fountains, the same toilets, as the disease-ridden Deltarians? As a means of purification, this matter cannot be ignored. Solentia's lesser races must be limited to their own segregated amenities in order to aid in the effort to contain their impurities and diseases." Baltazar Harrison |
| Date | 22:45:25, July 19, 2008 CET | From | National Zeus Party | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | Mr Harrison, It is this kind of thinking that leads to violence, hatred, and eventually Genocide. We will not now nor will we ever support a bill with this piece of trash concerning segregation. Erik Vernon NZP Vice Chair |
| Date | 23:06:03, July 19, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | Mr. Vernon, I find it terrifying that your party would choose to defend the lice-ridden degenerates who so brazenly impose themselves upon our society at the detriment of pure, innocent Solentians. Were you elected to this Senate in order to serve Solentia, or her foreign counterparts? Baltazar Harrison |
| Date | 23:41:30, July 19, 2008 CET | From | National Zeus Party | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | A Solentian of a different race is still a Solentian. Were YOU elected to trample Solentia? or to protect it? |
| Date | 10:40:31, July 20, 2008 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | "<<eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.>> Does the TRPS not see that segregation shall lead to segregation of our own? We must learn to live with the Deltrarians, no matter how much our people are different. However, maintaining of the real Solentian people is very important to us, and as it's crucial that we return to rule under the origional ruling houses and families that are truely Solentian...we shall support for now." Shadow Secretary of State for Internal Affairs: Isabella Fernando |
| Date | 20:15:22, July 20, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | A Solentian of a different race is racially inferior to a Solentian of pure blood. How dare you insult those of pure Solentian blood by calling them equals to the slum-dwelling squatters that defile the outskirts of Solentia's otherwise pristine cityscapes? The today's Solentia is a putrid environment not fit to be passed down to our progeny. How can you support those *animals* when innocent Solentians fear to walk alone through their cities as night, for fear of a Deltarian mugger or rapist? Baltazar Harrison |
| Date | 20:30:32, July 20, 2008 CET | From | National Zeus Party | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | Mr.Harrison You say innocent Solentians fear to walk alone and what is your next logical step? To segregate and further isolate those that they are in fear of, which would only cause more unrational and unlogical fear of these people? NO. That is not the answer, the answer is to not promote generalizations about entire races, but to combat the crime by increasing the power of police and allowing them access to better educational opportunities so that they do not have to resort to crime to make a living for themselves and thier families. You say Solentia is pristine in one sentence and then putrid in the very next, make up your mind! For purposes of the arguement i will assume you consider Solentia to be putrid. Here is what you do, Propose legislation that will clean up Solentia so that our future generations and outsiders do not see Solentia as a Wart on the Majatran Continent. Mr.Harrison you are simply blaming others for problems they have little control over, instead of searching for answers you are searching for scapegoats, and I, Nor any member of my party will stand idly by and watch you persecute people who do not deserve it. Erik Vernon |
| Date | 20:41:01, July 20, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | Mr. Vernon, The TRPS attempted to grant the police force greater powers, in several articles; http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=207136 (NZP votes yea) http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=207132 (NZP votes nay) As you can see, this method has been refused by the National Zeus Party and Solentia overall. What other means are there to protect Solentians from those of impure blood now than to separate them completely? If the inferior races of Solentia are contained to their own sectors of Solentia's cities, then those sectors can be avoided by those who do not wish to expose themselves to the disease, poverty, and degenerateness characteristic of Terra's lesser races? Baltazar Harrison |
| Date | 20:50:35, July 20, 2008 CET | From | National Zeus Party | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | Mr.Harrison In the second bill you wished to give the police UNLIMITED power to arrest, which is just foolish. According to the legislation I could be arrested for picking my nose on public property or for even VOTING IN THE SENATE. We owe it to every CITIZEN to improve their lives and to pull them up from poverty,disease, and "degenerateness". Of course there will be those who do not wish to be helped, but for those we can not accomadate i fully support locking them up and throwing away the key, but for those yearing for change and hoping for a new life we MUST take every step to assist them. If certain Solentians wish to be separate from the rest of their fellow citizens then let them go live in gated communities on high hills, probably not much different from the one you live on. These peoples future generations deserve a better life and could contribute immensly to the Solentian culture as many minorities already do. To exclude them from our culture would only add to the problem and increase hatred and violence between the races, and bring danger to all of us. Erik Vernon |
| Date | 20:57:15, July 20, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | Mr. Vernon, What danger can a race of weak, sick, cowards present to one so noble as the Solentians? You fear to trust our military and police forces to protect us in the face of an envious uprising of degenerates. If we separate them from ourselves, and they hate us, then let them hate us! They would envy the success of the Solentian race and recognize the errors of the ways of their races. The Solentian culture has nothing to gain from their "contributions," and would merely suffer under the weight of underdeveloped minds attempting to appear civilized. Baltazar Harrison |
| Date | 21:55:54, July 20, 2008 CET | From | National Zeus Party | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | They could pose a great danger to you Mr Harrison. I would not be surprised, if you continued such hatefilled speech, if some extremist was to make an attempt on your life. You undue your self Mr.Harrison. "What Danger can a race of weak,sick,cowards present to one so noble as the Solentians?" Exactly! What Danger?? NONE, so why not keep things as they are and let them be an integral part of communities. What race you are born of is not a choice therefore we should not punish someone because of it. The Solentian Culture could gain much from these people, maybe not now, but from future generations if we were to enact legislation that could help these people instead of stepping on them. Like it or not Harrison, if these people live here legally then they are part of our culture. Whats the saying? " A team is only as strong as its weakest link?". This holds true in Solentia as well, so let us strengthen our weak links so that we may improve upon the Glorious Federal Republic of Solentia. We can not simply wipe this under the rug or ignore the problem as segregation would undoubtedly do. Erik Vernon |
| Date | 22:04:51, July 20, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | Mr. Vernon, I do not take threats, however subtle, upon my life lightly. You would do well to guard your tongue before it takes you to a place you'd rather not have gone. If we continue to allow these vile creatures to walk the streets of Solentia's cities freely and unsegregated, then they will pose a danger to Solentia's citizens. When I spoke of these animals presenting no real threat, I referred to circumstances more grandiose than a gang rape in a dark alley, or a group mugging, 10 on one, in one of Solentia's parks. Any "organized" violence on the part of the lesser races could easily be handled by our fine police or military, but unprovoked strikes will never be a fair fight. I agree, Mr. Vernon, that a team is only as strong as its weakest links. But if the choices stand at reforging the weak links into a somewhat stronger yet nonetheless shoddy work, or otherwise removing the weak links entirely, which is preferable? Baltazar Harrison |
| Date | 22:12:18, July 20, 2008 CET | From | National Zeus Party | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | The only thing shoddy is your outdated thinking mr.harrison,I will guard my tongue when i feel it is neccessary, i would advise you not to threaten ME. We have already seen what the NZP will do to protect its own. Now, Back to the matter at hand. Crime is Crime Mr.Harrison it is commited by both "pure" Solentians and those of different races. I would glady reforge the weaker links, but not into anything shoddy, it will take time and effort to change these people but change will come none-the-less. Erik Vernon |
| Date | 22:25:00, July 20, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | And while you await this change, Mr. Vernon, you will see hundreds of pure blood Solentians raped and assaulted by those of a lesser race who due to envy and jealousy and a lack of intelligence find no shame in using violence as a means to an end? Why not eliminate the problem at the source. By removing those of pure blood from regular interaction with those of lesser blood, we can entirely eliminate the possibility of hate crimes by the lesser races upon Solentians, and perhaps even encourage them to fight amongst themselves in order to keep their numbers better in check. Baltazar Harrison |
| Date | 22:48:51, July 20, 2008 CET | From | National Zeus Party | To | Debating the Purification Act IV |
| Message | Why not kill all the males so that further births would not be possible?? Or lock them all in cages so that they can not interact at all with other races?? A hate crime by Solentians against those of mixed blood is just as bad as the opposite. Keep their numbers better in Check?? what you propose is mass genocide mr harrison. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 58 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 246 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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