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Bill: Structure of Jakanian Government
Details
Submitted by[?]: Jakanian Liberal Socialists
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2118
Description[?]:
| This bill seeks to define Jakania's structure of government. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The number of proposals a party can introduce per year (will be handed out as a monthly quota).
Old value:: 8
Current: 20
Proposed: 20
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The maximum proposal quota a party can accumulate.
Old value:: 15
Current: 50
Proposed: 25
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Current: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Proposed: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Appointments and requirements for government employees.
Old value:: Government employees are selected and appointed in a political way.
Current: All government employees have to promise political independence.
Proposed: All government employees have to promise political independence.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:49:51, September 27, 2005 CET | From |   Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the Structure of Jakanian Government |
| Message | Technically, establishing the position of Head of State as "hereditary and symbolic," is unconstitutional. Our constitution calls for an "a unitary parliamentary democracy with an elected head of state." That issue aside, though, can you give your rationale for Article 3? Are you attempting to create a UK-eque symbolic monarchy (in which case I would recommend chaning the title of president to king or monarch) or are you simply trying to reduce executive power? |
| Date | 15:55:48, September 27, 2005 CET | From | Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the Structure of Jakanian Government |
| Message | ( My bad, I didn't notice that this was a constitutional amendment. Ignore my "unconstitutional" comment above. Also, typo: chaning => changing ^^) |
| Date | 17:42:07, September 27, 2005 CET | From | Jakanian Liberal Socialists | To | Debating the Structure of Jakanian Government |
| Message | (It's okay. Actually, i'll be valuing a lot of your input, as I'm a new player here. I was mainly just trying to add some flavour to the country statistics which i'm assuming were all basic defaults, as it's a previously untouched country. ;) If that's not an accepted way to play, do tell. And, the new title of the president was suggested under the other bill i also submitted. The Identity bill, or however it was called. I thought "King" was kind of standard, so I attempted something more grand. ^^ ) |
| Date | 00:35:39, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Jakanian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Structure of Jakanian Government |
| Message | I must give opposition to allowing any one person power purely through herititary. I would prefer that the Head of State be more explicitly limited to symbolism., or removed. ( I am glad to see I am not the only new player here!) |
| Date | 01:06:24, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the Structure of Jakanian Government |
| Message | I think anyone entering this country will be new (including myself, don't give me so much credit :P) because players are restricted to only one account. I agree with Free Republicans -- I don't favor vesting power in a single person. However I think having a symbolic monarch -- or "Cermonial Emperor" if you like -- is too archaic IMO and diminishes the perceived popular sovereignty. Unfortunately, there is no ideal option of "No head of state/government." The 3 possibilities are: 1) two seperate positions, 2) one symbolic, the other with executive power and 3) one position incorporating both. Option #2 is like the U.K., Denmark or any other modenr day "kingdom." Option #3 is pretty much the U.S. I can't think of a specific example for #1... maybe Saudi Arabia? Anyway, having only one position would not be bad, so long as we limit the actual powers of the President. I'd like to point out that it simplifies the election process and makes it easier to hold one person accountable (otherwise, if we have two seperate positions, there might be a lot of finger pointing). Plus, the fewer politicians the better :D |
| Date | 05:51:03, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Nudist Party of United Jakania | To | Debating the Structure of Jakanian Government |
| Message | I would agree with option #3, though having a symbolic monarchy is kinda nice. But for the simplicity of government, I think one position only. |
| Date | 07:09:04, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Jakanian Liberal Socialists | To | Debating the Structure of Jakanian Government |
| Message | While the party has reservations about combining the powers and placing them under the responsability of a single person, the proposition is now ammended to combine the two posts. Are there any further concerns? |
| Date | 14:14:47, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Nudist Party of United Jakania | To | Debating the Structure of Jakanian Government |
| Message | The NP would support this proposal |
| Date | 14:58:19, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the Structure of Jakanian Government |
| Message | The LP has no further objections to this bill and will gladly vote in favor of it. |
| Date | 15:28:03, September 29, 2005 CET | From | Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the Structure of Jakanian Government |
| Message | (We have 2/3 now. Thanks for the support guys :D) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 68 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 32 |
| Random fact: Cabinet ministers who disagree seriously with the head of government would usually be expected to resign. Parties within the cabinet may attempt to manoeuvre to replace the head of government though, for example by proposing a new cabinet bill or voting for an early election. |
| Random quote: "Democrats always assure us that deterrence will work, but when the time comes to deter, they're against it. " - Ann Coulter |