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Bill: The Prometheus Programme Part 1

Details

Submitted by[?]: Coalition for National Unity [CNU]

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2609

Description[?]:

An Act to make provision for the set-up and establishment of the Prometheus Programme.

This Act was written in the year of our Lord Twenty Six Hundred an eight and is proposed and approved by the Executive of the Conservative and Morality Party

Be it enacted by the Supreme President's most Excellent and Loyal approval, by and with the advice and consent of the Senators elected and their peers appointed, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows___

-Director of the Prometheus Programme: Nikhil Masoud

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date15:43:54, July 20, 2008 CET
From Meritocratic Alliance
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
MessageThere will be no withdrawal from the United Front Against Nuncirism. I ask, is the CMP now a front for Nuncirist activities? I believe there should be hearings about this.

Date16:30:47, July 20, 2008 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
MessageThere is little purpose in being in an alliance against something alone.

Perhaps a declaration of our intentions against Nuncranism as a legislation in Solentia, rather than on a national level?

Date16:34:24, July 20, 2008 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
Message*international

Date16:36:41, July 20, 2008 CET
From Federal Independent Party
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
MessageAny legislation proposed beginning with the following introduction will not be considered as a valid bill for consideration by us.

"This Act was written in the year of our Lord..."

What "Lord"? Which "Lord" is this? Solentia harbors several religions currently, and although there is a state religion, it has never been defined. Therefore, we may not assume all citizens believe in a "Lord".

FIP Minority Leader Lucius Cicero

Date16:38:54, July 20, 2008 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
Message"And so the F.I.P do now abandon their religion of Xzarin Catholicism...a most interesting turn of events."

Catherine York, Leader of the CMP.

Date16:44:12, July 20, 2008 CET
From Solentian People Party
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
MessageCorrect me If I am wrong SRNP- but wern't you and your party FOR nuncrism at one time and for Racism and discrminiantion- in which case you surely should support article one?

Max Collins, People Party Leader

Date16:46:17, July 20, 2008 CET
From Federal Independent Party
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
MessageWe do not abandon Xzarin Catholicism. We simply hold respect for citizens who do not practice our patron religion.

FIP Senator Barry Torme Jr.

Date16:46:23, July 20, 2008 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
Message"Article 1 in no way denotes a support of Nuncirism but for an end to an International Accord that only we are signed up for. There is nothing stopping this senate from passing the same under a national article instead."

Shadow Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs: Mahmoud Al-Fayed

Date16:47:40, July 20, 2008 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
Message"To the F.I.P -

Surely then seeing that our national religion is in existance and is mandatory, each citizen must believe in one "Lord" or another?"

Catherine York, CMP Leader

Date17:06:44, July 20, 2008 CET
From Federal Independent Party
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
MessageIf the state religion is mandatory, then that means ciitzens who do not believe in organized religion, are agnostic, or atheist will be forced to practice something they do not wish. That is a violation of a citizens natural rights and civil liberties. Also, not all religions believe in a "Lord" of some sort. Some religions emphasize basic spirituality over a supreme greater being.

FIP Senator Barry Torme Jr.

Date17:16:37, July 20, 2008 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
Message"Whilst we do appeciate the second point and are willing to change our wording to that end, we do oppose the first section about the violation of natural rights, as if the F.I.P, such is the law of the State and that IS the system at this time."

Catherine York, CMP Leader

Date17:24:21, July 20, 2008 CET
From Federal Independent Party
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
MessageWhen I spoke of natural rights, I had the intention of saying that it violates basic inherent rights the government hands over to citizens. A citizen has a basic right to freedom of religion, or that is at least the opinion of this party, and thusly is a natural right to not have a religion imposed upon you. No matter what the state's law is on this matter, it should not have jurisdiction over the citizenry's level of faith and who or what they pray to.

FIP Senator Barry Torme Jr.

Date17:26:41, July 20, 2008 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
Message"We concur that nothing can possibly control Religion, however Religion must drive the State. A citizen who doesn't believe must be guided, isnt that the idea of evangelism?"

Catherine York, CMP Leader.

Date17:47:25, July 20, 2008 CET
From Meritocratic Alliance
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
MessageSolentia was the cradle of Nuncirism. It is for us to maintain vigilance against it every taking root once again.

Date17:52:20, July 20, 2008 CET
From Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
Message"Then we propose withdrawing from this treaty as we are the only members and producing legislation on a national level where it might be more useful."

Catherine York, CMP Leader.

Date21:21:14, July 20, 2008 CET
From Meritocratic Alliance
ToDebating the The Prometheus Programme Part 1
MessageThis bill, should it come to a vote, is dead in the water.

Senator Sarah Belisarius, SRNP

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