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Bill: State of Emergency

Details

Submitted by[?]: Radical Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 2610

Description[?]:

Telamon is currently in a crisis, with riots across of our nation spreading from the tensions between Muslims and Christians in the region of Lirona. Violence in mounting, and police have been made casualties.

On top of this, it has come to the government's attention that the TNP's banned Security Forces, which were made illegal under the Anti-Paramilitary Act, have returned to the scene to 'protect' churches. The fact that an "independent" firm is conveniently protecting all TNP supported churches is quite suspicious. Especially given that you would think some religious organizations would refuse the protection of armed guards.

A President, I am vested with the power to call a state of emergency at will, but I feel that with recent criticisms over manipulating the situation for our benefit, I will put it before this democratic House to seek mandate. It will be handled by the ordinary special weapons police forces, and not the military, as to avoid appearing to be martial law. Our plan is to disperse the riots, return normality to the streets before we can begin Muslim-Christian negotiations. We will also make the necessary arrests, which may include some senior figures within the TNP.

Fieren Goldmark
President of the Republic of Telamon

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date14:03:14, July 22, 2008 CET
FromNational Union Party
ToDebating the State of Emergency
MessageWe back the TNP in the dispute. It seems the Radical party is taking the side of the muslim terrorists in this encounter. We are purposing early elections to end the rule of the traitors in the radical party. We ask no parties to back the weak Radical party in the upcoming elections.

Date14:11:41, July 22, 2008 CET
FromRadical Party
ToDebating the State of Emergency
MessageWe already have the support of the DCD and Liberal Alliance of Telamon.

Fieren Goldmark
President of the Republic of Telamon

Date14:42:18, July 22, 2008 CET
FromTelamon National Party
ToDebating the State of Emergency
MessageYou are mistaken, our security firm was not banned as it was clearly stated that security firms are allowed to exist to ensure safety of people is assured. As for the churches, the security forces are protecting all churches not 'TNP supporting churches'. Most churches actually stay impartial to politics and stay out of the political scene as they have a duty to offer religious guidance not political guidance.
This bill is just showing that the RP is sending the nation down a road of political persecution, we first saw the attempt to destroy our civil liberties and have the military policing our streets. Which would of been very useful for the president to silence any political dissent.
We call on all parties that respect and stand by Democracy to vote against this anti-democratic and fascist bill.

Susan Smith,
TNP Leader.

Date15:56:23, July 22, 2008 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party
ToDebating the State of Emergency
MessageWe are not in support of independent security forces acting as vigilante justice for what they think is right. We need the national police force to handle matters such as these, and the military to back them up. We should be coming together and using Telamon's resources to find the specific terrorist organizations responsible for these "terrorist acts" which have not been made clear to me. Islam itself should NOT be in jeopardy, because we believe that the terrorists were Muslim. Islam is a religion, and it should be recognized as such by the state, and it should be provided the same political freedoms as Christianity. We are not a nation of one religion, we accept religious freedom. We cannot simply accuse every Muslim of being a terrorist and say, 'Sorry but we can't help you anymore, you're now being persecuted by the government.' We would alienate not only our Muslim population, but the millions of Telamonian people that think this is unjustified. The RP is not trying to destroy the TNP's political freedoms, because the use of secret police forces was banned in a prior bill, and the TNP should realize that. For the TNP to take military action they should seek a reform that legalizes the use of party militias, and with that bill should be a code of ethics for the militias, a constitution that provides rules and regulations on the use of such militias. We cannot simply employ our own police forces and battle each other, because we would not be looking out for the PEOPLE of Telamon, who are the real factor here. Christians and Muslims alike, we are responsible for them all.

The Liberal Alliance of Telamon will be voting yes to this bill, simply because of the infraction of Telamonian law. We would also like to call for the RP to provide the actual bill that was passed, and reaffirm such a bill. We encourage the TNP to seek a reform on these matters, if it is wanted by most of the parties in Telamon.

Date15:56:45, July 22, 2008 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party
ToDebating the State of Emergency
Message- Tony Fuller
Chairman of the Liberal Alliance of Telamon

Date16:07:14, July 22, 2008 CET
FromTelamon National Party
ToDebating the State of Emergency
MessageThe bill banned paramilitary groups, the security firm employed by the TNP is not a paramilitary group but a security firm set up by Nationalists to offer their serivces and skills to protect other Nationalists during political events. The bill did NOT ban security firms, the TNP security firm is soley a defensive organisation independent of the TNP, all they have done so far is stoo guard around churches which the police were unable to do since they were busy keeping the rioters in place and stopping them from spreading into other areas and having the violence intensify.
As for calling in the military, we would support that but this Government has failed to do so because we feel they are scared of upsetting the Islamic community. As it stands all it takes is the signature of the minister responsible to call in the military as the law is already in place, the government is failing to take action needed and as a result the violence is spreading and people are being hurt.

Susan Smith,
TNP Leader.

Date16:08:50, July 22, 2008 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party
ToDebating the State of Emergency
MessageWe need to seek a constitution for security firms, that regulate where they take direction, how they are formed, and what rights they have in response to attacks and what rights the firms have in relation to private citizens and property.

Date16:14:00, July 22, 2008 CET
FromTelamon National Party
ToDebating the State of Emergency
MessageThere is no restrictions on what they do, they have even been employed by local governments to be the police service of them local areas. Simply there are no laws to be broken when it comes to what security firms can and cant do. Therefore voting yes to this bill is pointless and also an attack on the freedoms of our people and will lead to political harrasment of TNP officials.

We hope the LAT will see sense and vote no to this bill.

Susan Smith,
TNP Leader.

Date16:22:37, July 22, 2008 CET
FromTelamon National Party
ToDebating the State of Emergency
MessageThe bills in question are:
http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=200381

http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=200905

As you will see private firms are perfectly legal, the TNP does not control the security firm as already established. It is a private business set up by Nationalists which offers its services to the TNP.

Date23:10:21, July 22, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic Capitalist Delegation
ToDebating the State of Emergency
MessageWe have reason to believe however, that the TNP security firm was in fact established b the party. My office will be re-opening the previously inconclusive investigation and re-instating Mr. Griffith as lead investigator to offer a conclusive answer to this issue.

I also intend to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law all citizens who have violated laws in these recent riots, christian and muslim alike. However, in order to begin making arrests and apprehending those responsible for this recent terror, we must first declare this state of emergency to restore order. I support this motion, as does my party, because our government needs to take definitive action.

Michael Bush
Minister of Justice
Democratic Capitalist Delegation

Date15:38:19, July 23, 2008 CET
FromTelamon Minarchist Party
ToDebating the State of Emergency
MessageWe will vote against; the government should and is investigating and proceeding with charges. What we don't need however, is an extra-legal scenario where no one quite knows the rules and the government is granted expanded powers. We vote against this bill not because we don't have faith in our government, but because we do have faith in our government to handle this situation without tossing out the rule of law.

Leonard Nozick Jr.
Party Leader
Telamon Minarchist Party

Date17:13:14, July 26, 2008 CET
FromRightful Radical Party
ToDebating the State of Emergency
MessageThe TMP, recently, is getting quite out of the Government.

Vojislav Krkljus
Chairman of the RRP

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Total Seats: 226

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Total Seats: 239

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