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Bill: Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Liberty Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 2611

Description[?]:

Article 1: Title

section 1: This shall be known as the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
section 2: The short form shall be known as the PDPA

Article 2: Purpose

section 1: prohibits all forms of positive discrimination in all segments of society.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date06:27:57, July 23, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageIt's not our business how employers wish to choose their workers. If they want to give jobs to minorities first, then they should be able to.

Date06:28:42, July 23, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageSo you are now on record that you officially support discrimination. That is nice.

Date06:31:48, July 23, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessagePeople should be free to decide who they want to employ. It is not the governments role to decide for them.

Date06:35:33, July 23, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageDiscrimination is wrong no matter what. It is our job to make sure that no one is discriminated against.

Date06:39:36, July 23, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageYou discriminate with regard to gender and sexuality with regard to choosing sexual partners, should we also make that illegal?

Date06:43:29, July 23, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageSorry Judicial Union but our laws stipulate that we do not discriminate base on gender and sexuality when it comes to sexual partners so that is already illegal.

Date06:49:30, July 23, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageUh... what? The laws say no such thing.

Date06:59:41, July 23, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageLegality of Sodomy Currently: Sexual relations of all types are legal for consenting adults.

So yes it does. We do not discriminate against it so what I said was right. Maybe you should comprehend what is being said instead of assuming I ment something else.

Date07:11:07, July 23, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageNo, that says that the law doesn't regulate sexual relations between consenting adults. It is entirely legal and very common for a person to discriminate between the genders in choosing their sexual partners.

Date14:57:51, July 23, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageNo Judicial Union. Maybe you are confused on legal terms but the law states as follows:

Sexual relations of all types are legal for consenting adults.

Now this is under the category of Sodomy. Under the current law, if I wanted to have sex with a man, I can legally do so without being discriminated against. If I were a woman and if I wanted to do it with a woman, I can legally do so without being discriminated against.

As such, it is illegal to discriminate "with regard to gender and sexuality with regard to choosing sexual partners.

Date17:50:03, July 23, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageFurthermore, we do not segregate public areas. So we do not discriminate there either. We have outlawed discrimination in nearly every area of society. This will do away with it in business.

Date23:24:40, July 23, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageThe law doesn't discriminate with regards to sexuality and gender, we never suggested it did. Individual private citizens do however. A heterosexual man will only choose women as sexual partners. He is discriminating against other men, but is it wrong for him to do so? Of course not, for he is a private citizen, and he can choose who he wants to bed.

We allow gentleman's clubs, in which only men may go. We do so because it is a private organisation, and they have a right to choose who they want to allow as members.

The same idea applies to employment. If a business owner does not like people of a certain race, gender, religion etc, why should they be forced to hire them? It is their business, it is their money. The government has no place in regulating what a private citizen chooses. Indeed the state must not discriminate, but this law goes far beyond that.

Date23:45:49, July 23, 2008 CET
FromHello Kitty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageYou implied that he does. He pointed out that his opinion does not matter.

Affirmative Action is nothing but reverse discrimination. We support the proposal.

Date06:34:35, July 26, 2008 CET
FromHello Kitty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageYAYAY!!! No Affirmative Action!

Date06:38:03, July 26, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageThe government is now deciding who employers can hire. That is far too much government intervention.

Date07:04:46, July 26, 2008 CET
FromHello Kitty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageSo you prefer that people get special treatment? so much for your stances on equality.

Date07:07:09, July 26, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageWe prefer that people be allowed to choose who they employ. It is not the government's place to regulate who people like.

Date07:21:25, July 26, 2008 CET
FromHello Kitty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageExactly. Hence our support. We do not favor affirmative action at all. We prefer that people be allowed to choose who they employ. Affirmative Action prevents them from employing who they want to. Now with the current proposal, they can employ whoever they want to.

Date07:23:28, July 26, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageWhat part of "the government does not regulate hiring policies" makes you think the government regulated hiring policies? Now people are restricting from preferring a certain class in their hiring - employers are restricted.

Date07:29:26, July 26, 2008 CET
FromHello Kitty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageYou forget the implication that is in there. And here I thought your party was made up of lawyers. Man the loophole is astounding.

Date07:37:41, July 26, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
Message...the implication that "not regulating" means "regulating"? Now of course lawyers can be very good at arguing improbable things, but to argue that something means the complete opposite of its plain meaning, well, that's a little bit too much.

Date07:41:02, July 26, 2008 CET
FromHello Kitty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageYou really do not see the loophole do you? It is so large, a truck can drive through it.

Date08:28:00, July 26, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageWhat "loophole" are you talking about? Please enlighten us, o great one.

Date14:30:41, July 26, 2008 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination Prohibition Act
MessageA party made up of judges and lawyers and they can not see it! How very very sad.

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Total Seats: 169

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Total Seats: 64


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