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Bill: Death Penalty Act of 2610
Details
Submitted by[?]: Green Party of Aldegar
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2611
Description[?]:
| For the state to resort to death penalty is not only a gross violation on the right to life, but also a clear representation of the impotency of the judiciary. Treating crimes with retributive justice is an incredibly short-sighted approach to peace. Instead, we should focus on restorative justice to ensure reconciliation and acceptance. And abolishing death penalty is a good first step. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:45:41, July 24, 2008 CET | From | Federation Aldegarian Party | To | Debating the Death Penalty Act of 2610 |
| Message | What if the violators of capital crimes fail the rehab? Do we allow them to wreak havoc on innocent people with the false hope of acceptance? We respect the right to live, but if that right brews predicted murder, we demand our own rights to protect the rest |
| Date | 13:01:23, July 24, 2008 CET | From | Green Party of Aldegar | To | Debating the Death Penalty Act of 2610 |
| Message | So you've been thinking about rehab, MLP? That will be the next step, but we respect your long term approach. Yes, some people can fail the rehab. But if the state takes the lives of those criminals, how is the state different from them? Oh, yea, turns out the answer's pretty obvious, 'coz the state has Power. |
| Date | 16:33:10, July 24, 2008 CET | From | Pantheism Capitalistic Party UCF | To | Debating the Death Penalty Act of 2610 |
| Message | The difference is the state is the legitamate government that is trying to do good for everybody, while the criminal only causes harm to others. |
| Date | 20:25:54, July 24, 2008 CET | From | Zoroastrian People's Party | To | Debating the Death Penalty Act of 2610 |
| Message | We admittedly feel some qualms about the death penalty when another vector besides religious law is used. We will however grudgingly approve it's secular application even if we're uncomfortable with it. |
| Date | 22:00:12, July 24, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Liberalism Party | To | Debating the Death Penalty Act of 2610 |
| Message | Okay, PLP. Here's a test. Someone kills your family/close friends. Would you want them to be executed or "rehabilitated"? |
| Date | 01:42:55, July 25, 2008 CET | From | Green Party of Aldegar | To | Debating the Death Penalty Act of 2610 |
| Message | CBP, I want them rehabilitated. If we just kill people who kill people, we are not tackling the disease. We are curing the symptoms. We have to ask ourselves, why do criminals do what they do and disrupt society? Is is because they are simply mad barbarians who cannot belong to society? Or is it because we, the society, make them feel that they cannot belong? |
| Date | 02:34:23, July 25, 2008 CET | From | Party of the Terravore | To | Debating the Death Penalty Act of 2610 |
| Message | If they fail to rehab, they are drags to the society. If they are drags to the society, CHAIR THEM! |
| Date | 06:05:53, July 25, 2008 CET | From | Pantheism Capitalistic Party UCF | To | Debating the Death Penalty Act of 2610 |
| Message | If their response to feeling isolated is to kill people, then they deserve to die out of the stupidity of thier actions. |
| Date | 06:17:39, July 25, 2008 CET | From | Green Party of Aldegar | To | Debating the Death Penalty Act of 2610 |
| Message | The society is the majority. They are the minority. If the minority commits crime, it is just a way to make the majority wake up and see that there is problem with their relationship. And it is not stupidity, because, we, the majority, have not been paying attention to their problems well enough. If they kill people, it is simply a message for us that there is a problem in the foundations of our society. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 750 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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